The Sizzle Thread!

[Erin~TheChickenLover]

I agree with this 100%

In about 2 weeks you have a good idea of what feather type each chick will be. If mine (I hatched 60 chicks so far in the last 6 weeks with one last batch going into lock down tomorrow night, so 75 sizzle chicks) did not/ does not have barbed smooth feathers or barbed frizzle feathers, I gave/give them away as pet quality. Out of the 60 that have hatched, I kept I think 20 chicks combined, frizzled and smooth. I'll grow these out a little more and cull down to about 4 or 5 that I will keep as breeders for next year. This Spring should be a lot of fun for me if I end up with a nice smooth feathered male!!!

Chris

Thanks Chris and 4hchickmama. That is good to know and definitely something to keep in mind.

 

[Erin~TheChickenLover]

A couple more pics from the other night...






Chris

Very nice chicks! Can't wait to see them once they get big, keep adding pictures!

 

[Erin~TheChickenLover]

Well it looks like the odds of Dweezle being a girl are going down hill! he is showing off and challenging the White Face Black Spanish cockerells thru the fence and constantly picking on the barred Rock and EE in the grow up pen with him and Jay Jay,

He is a little wet here with all the rain here lately it is hard to get a dry pic.



Here is his comb like a little sub ripe mulberry,



the one time he is actually being nice to the EE and Rock in his pen, "ofcorse he has to be between them and Jay Jay who's tail feathers you can see on the left side!"



We bellive Jay Jay to be looking a little girly for a polish, Once we find him a good quality Silkie mate he will probably hate us for taking his girlfriend away,

Another shot of Jay Jay "and you can see in both shots Dweezles back side only inches away.
These two are about inseperable!!





Well coments or thoughts on Dweezle and what color or type of silkie to pair him up with? I would like to correct the little bit of white on his feet other than that he seems to have no other faults,
We thought his eyes might be too light as well but they seem to be staying dark.

I would pair him with either a blue, splash, or black silkie. That will give you a few options. He definitely does look like a boy. My sizzle hens are almost 2 months old and they still have zero comb.

 

[valschicksrus]

Hi, its the new comer again! Country-(sheri), I love my little babies I got from you recently. My little granddaughters will finally meet them today!! They don't know about them yet, but mom does and she is excited for them. There will be many photos taken of the girls and their new pets, I will get some posted later when my daughter in law sends me some. She is a prof. photographer. I don't remember the age of these 3 chicks I bought from you (smooth sizzle-splash, blue sizzle, cochin) If you remember, would you let me know. Val (Granite Bay)

 

[4hchickmama]

Hi, its the new comer again! Country-(sheri), I love my little babies I got from you recently. My little granddaughters will finally meet them today!! They don't know about them yet, but mom does and she is excited for them. There will be many photos taken of the girls and their new pets, I will get some posted later when my daughter in law sends me some. She is a prof. photographer. I don't remember the age of these 3 chicks I bought from you (smooth sizzle-splash, blue sizzle, cochin) If you remember, would you let me know. Val (Granite Bay)

Hi Val! I'm in Rocklin and I have several of Sheris birds as well. Please share some pictures when you can!!

 

[aoxa]

Is there any reason why you would use a cochin instead of another frizzled breed in the sizzle project? I know the thinking is that the cohin would be the frizzled part to breed to the silkie to GET the sizzle.. If Polish was introduced instead of the cochin, would that not work better? Seeing as they have crests as well.. I guess cochins have feathered legs and the body you'd want.. :/ Thinking to myself here.. I bred my sizzle to my polish and got 2 frizzled chicks and 1 smooth. The frizzled chicks are bearded, have feathered legs and are dark skinned (though not as dark as a silkie).

Would they be worth using with my silkie rooster, or...? They sure are cute though (3 weeks old)

 

[Erin~TheChickenLover]

Is there any reason why you would use a cochin instead of another frizzled breed in the sizzle project?
I know the thinking is that the cohin would be the frizzled part to breed to the silkie to GET the sizzle..
If Polish was introduced instead of the cochin, would that not work better? Seeing as they have crests as well.. I guess cochins have feathered legs and the body you'd want..

Thinking to myself here..
I bred my sizzle to my polish and got 2 frizzled chicks and 1 smooth. The frizzled chicks are bearded, have feathered legs and are dark skinned (though not as dark as a silkie).

Would they be worth using with my silkie rooster, or...? They sure are cute though

(3 weeks old)

People breed sizzles to cochins to get frizzled cochins and maybe to get genetic diversity or because that is what they have. It usually takes more than one generation to get it right. The sizzles that you get from the first sizzle/cochin breeding are normally pet quality because they may have yellow skin, orange eyes, 4 toes on each foot, ect. You can breed those sizzles to a silkie and get pretty good sizzles. The generation of sizzles after that generation will be close to standard. The frizzles you get from a sizzle/cochin breeding are usually pet quality as well. You would then breed those frizzles back to a cochin to get pretty good frizzles. And again, the generation of frizzles after that generation would be close to standard. Generation #1: Sizzle/cochin= some mutt culls, pet quality sizzles, pet quality frizzles. Generation #2: Pet quality sizzles/silkie= pretty good sizzles; Pet quality frizzles/cochin= pretty good frizzles. Generation #3- Pretty good sizzle/straight sizzle- sizzles that are close or meet the standard; Pretty good frizzle/cochin= frizzles that are close or meet the standard

I bred a gray sizzle hen to a black mottled bantam cochin and this is what I am doing. This allows me to have both a sizzle and a frizzle breeding project. If you want just sizzles and not frizzles, then it would probably be better to use a polish than a cochin though I don't know for sure what that would make. You can breed them to the silkie rooster, just keep in mind that it might take more than one generation to get them up to the silkie standard. I do notice that your chicks have light colored beaks. That can be bred out in as few as one generation. The key to all this is to cull heavily. Breed the best to the best, sale or give away the rest.

 

[aoxa]

People breed sizzles to cochins to get frizzled cochins and maybe to get genetic diversity or because that is what they have. It usually takes more than one generation to get it right. The sizzles that you get from the first sizzle/cochin breeding are normally pet quality because they may have yellow skin, orange eyes, 4 toes on each foot, ect. You can breed those sizzles to a silkie and get pretty good sizzles. The generation of sizzles after that generation will be close to standard. The frizzles you get from a sizzle/cochin breeding are usually pet quality as well. You would then breed those frizzles back to a cochin to get pretty good frizzles. And again, the generation of frizzles after that generation would be close to standard. Generation #1: Sizzle/cochin= some mutt culls, pet quality sizzles, pet quality frizzles. Generation #2: Pet quality sizzles/silkie= pretty good sizzles; Pet quality frizzles/cochin= pretty good frizzles. Generation #3- Pretty good sizzle/straight sizzle- sizzles that are close or meet the standard; Pretty good frizzle/cochin= frizzles that are close or meet the standard I bred a gray sizzle hen to a black mottled bantam cochin and this is what I am doing. This allows me to have both a sizzle and a frizzle breeding project. If you want just sizzles and not frizzles, then it would probably be better to use a polish than a cochin though I don't know for sure what that would make. You can breed them to the silkie rooster, just keep in mind that it might take more than one generation to get them up to the silkie standard. I do notice that your chicks have light colored beaks. That can be bred out in as few as one generation. The key to all this is to cull heavily. Breed the best to the best, sale or give away the rest.

Thanks for being so descriptive! I have six more of these chicks in lock down and even more under a broody hen. So far the frizzled ones have light coloured beaks, while the smooth has a dark beak, and nice dark skin. She even has skin as dark as my silkies.

Yesterday. Now she is closing in on 7 weeks. Could be a boy, but seems very feminine so far. According to the director of a poultry group in my area (judge and breeder as well) there are very few frizzle breeders at all in Canada (of any breed) so I think it would be easy enough to sell frizzled crosses. Someone is buying my frilkie for $25 and it's a male. The sizzle x polish chicks pictured (not the smooth) only one has 5 toes, and the other has 4 on one, 5 on the other. If bred back to a silkie, there is still possibility of improvement, right?

 

[Erin~TheChickenLover]

Thanks for being so descriptive! I have six more of these chicks in lock down and even more under a broody hen. So far the frizzled ones have light coloured beaks, while the smooth has a dark beak, and nice dark skin. She even has skin as dark as my silkies.

Yesterday. Now she is closing in on 7 weeks. Could be a boy, but seems very feminine so far.
According to the director of a poultry group in my area (judge and breeder as well) there are very few frizzle breeders at all in Canada (of any breed) so I think it would be easy enough to sell frizzled crosses. Someone is buying my frilkie for $25 and it's a male.
The sizzle x polish chicks pictured (not the smooth) only one has 5 toes, and the other has 4 on one, 5 on the other. If bred back to a silkie, there is still possibility of improvement, right?

Your welcome. Yes, there is a very good chance of improvement. I would say that at least 50% of the chicks would have 5 toes on each foot. Maybe even more or nearly all since the 9 toed one does carry the 10 toed gene (or I'm assuming it does since it has 9 toes and one of the parents is a sizzle). You could breed the smooth with nice dark skin and a dark beak back to the dad (who is a sizzle, right? correct me if I'm wrong). That is known as line breeding (father to daughter, mother to son) and is used to get the desired traits. And then you could breed the frizzled ones with lighter beaks to a silkie. The results should be some good looking sizzles. You could also make some frizzled polish if you wanted. I've seen pictures and they look very cool!

 

[aoxa]

Your welcome. Yes, there is a very good chance of improvement. I would say that at least 50% of the chicks would have 5 toes on each foot. Maybe even more or nearly all since the 9 toed one does carry the 10 toed gene (or I'm assuming it does since it has 9 toes and one of the parents is a sizzle). You could breed the smooth with nice dark skin and a dark beak back to the dad (who is a sizzle, right? correct me if I'm wrong). That is known as line breeding (father to daughter, mother to son) and is used to get the desired traits. And then you could breed the frizzled ones with lighter beaks to a silkie. The results should be some good looking sizzles. You could also make some frizzled polish if you wanted. I've seen pictures and they look very cool! 

The father of these three chicks is a sizzle. So if the smooth is female I will breed it back to the father, and if the frizzled are female I will breed it to my buff silkie rooster.

How long would it take to get clean legged chicks if I was to breed back to a polish? Ah that is a project for another day. I'll stick with the sizzles for now lol.