The Smithies, the $5 "Ayam Cemani" black meat bird

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by DCchicken, Aug 9, 2014.

  1. Anna6

    Anna6 Chillin' With My Peeps

    798
    81
    176
    Jan 3, 2014
    SoCal
    Has anyone caponized the roosters? How do these birds taste?
     
  2. DCchicken

    DCchicken Chillin' With My Peeps

    1,021
    106
    133
    Aug 29, 2013
    Maryland
    I haven't caponized any as the only Cemani I have processed were culls. But they taste very good, especially if you make black chicken ginseng soup.
     
  3. Anna6

    Anna6 Chillin' With My Peeps

    798
    81
    176
    Jan 3, 2014
    SoCal
    Sounds good. I was looking where you are located. It is a pity we are on opposite ends of the states. We have tried ordering eggs before but over all have had bad luck while we do fine with local bought eggs or our own. The shipping is just too hard on them.
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2014
  4. DurhamDuck

    DurhamDuck Chillin' With My Peeps

    413
    12
    121
    Mar 26, 2011
    Durham, Connecticut
    This new project is interesting. I like the name "smithies" as well. It's distinctive and easy to remember.

    Do they lay black eggs?
     
  5. DCchicken

    DCchicken Chillin' With My Peeps

    1,021
    106
    133
    Aug 29, 2013
    Maryland
    I get asked this question about the eggs a lot. Not sure where this rumor began. Chickens lay eggs with shells that are either white or blue. Then on top of the egg there can be a coating that can appear pinkish but is usually brown. The darker the coating, the browner the egg will look. But with breeds that have the blue egg shells, the brown coating will make the eggs turn green to olive.

    No chicken lays a black egg. The FM genes cause hyper-pigmentation in the tissues and organs of birds with it. But it does not affect the egg shell.

    Most FM breeds lay a cream (lightly tinted) to medium brown egg. For example:

    [​IMG]
    This is a Cemani egg.
     
  6. maranfarmer563

    maranfarmer563 Chillin' With My Peeps

    1,149
    47
    128
    Mar 13, 2014
    northern Pennsylvania
    The only black egg I ever saw was a duck egg,
     
    1 person likes this.
  7. DurhamDuck

    DurhamDuck Chillin' With My Peeps

    413
    12
    121
    Mar 26, 2011
    Durham, Connecticut
    Quote: Thank you. I asked because my black ducks lay black-shelled eggs. I thought that maybe these birds would be the same.
     
  8. DCchicken

    DCchicken Chillin' With My Peeps

    1,021
    106
    133
    Aug 29, 2013
    Maryland
    Yeah it seems only ducks lay a black egg and there is probably some evolutionary necessity for it. The blue eggs are caused by a retrovirus being inserted into the chicken genome.
     
  9. Double Kindness

    Double Kindness Chillin' With My Peeps

    1,394
    123
    158
    Jul 25, 2014
    CO
    My friend swears that she read about a chicken that lays black eggs and they are the cemani and argues with me about it lol but has never seen one in person.

    I still want to add these smithies to my flock, as I have other ayam cemani from the same person the smithies come from, as well as ac from gff probably in the springtime. Along with svart honas DC? Unless you have some ready to ship now (chicks not eggs)?

    So whenever they're ready... tomorrow I gotta get serious about building more chicken areas, especially brooder boxes.
     
  10. chooks4life

    chooks4life Overrun With Chickens

    4,905
    588
    286
    Apr 8, 2013
    Australia
    It's not too far fetched an idea that some Ayam Cemani would possibly lay black eggs, because if you can get chickens which produce very dark brown eggs, why not brown so thick it's basically black, too? I reckon it's not an impossibility but I haven't seen any sure cases of it either.... At this stage I guess it's just rumors but some hearsay turns out to be true, time will tell.
     

BackYard Chickens is proudly sponsored by