**The State killed all my friends birds!!**

many of use have learned this leason the hard way. Just do a search in the disease section and you will see all the heart ache. a proper quarentine is a must the birds can look healthy and still be sick or carriers, the quarentine is not perfect but it helps a lot. So far you have been lucky but I would not push it. There is a guy on BYC who has birds with a variety of illnesses and myself and a few members have had devistating results from our purchase and I did a partial quarentine but they shared air space and infected some of my others. I culled all but 2.
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Chikcs_N_Horses - I am not sure about passing diseases in the egg. Maybe someone else will have an opinion. i fyou are purchasing from an auction, you will most definately want to quarantine for 30 - 45 days minimum.

Unfortunately, some people will sell anything at an auction. I know of a gentleman who buys and sells left and right. Hey may purchase at one sale on Tuesday and sell the same birds on Wednesday at a different auciton. With people like this, you have no idea of their health. I have sold him some of my extra Roos before, but I would never bring anything from him back here. And he has a worker who drives here and picks them up. I don't even step on his farm nor do I let his helper near my animals. Shoes are the easiest way to carry diseases around.

I don't have a fortune in my animals, but at the same time, i do not want them to be hurt or get sick.
 
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We do like new birds. But we keep them away fromthe others for a month or so. Change shes and disinfect hands in between, dont use the same tools to clean the coops.....
 
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I did not know this

I do go to the numerous auctions in the state and there are feather traders people who buy at one and sell it at another.

I buy only from people i have known for years or have been recommended.
Buy from shows but even those can't be considered 100% safe.
Anything i buy is quarantined for 1 month then it will be housed separate from any other birds.

Chicks_N_Horses Yes i too know things can be passed from hatching eggs.

The only way to have 100% percent safe flock is "nothing" in People, pets, chickens,birds, eggs.
"Nothing" out no selling , no giving away, no trading, no visitors.

I love my hobby and enjoy the people i meet and the friends i've made and they all love chickens and birds just as much as me.
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Some diseases can be passed through the egg, especially if the hen is actively ill at the time, which is called "vertical transmission". Much more common is "hortizontal transmission", meaing passed from bird to bird or on someone's clothing, etc. Two birds that were not direct from the hatchery or from eggs I hatched from very reputable people have ever come here. Both were quarantined for over a month. If there was any question of the health of either one, it would have been put down and burned. No bird that leaves here can ever come back and I will never bring a started bird here again.
 
this is dreadful and the reason why so many in the Uk do not register their flocks.... once you do DEFRA comes along whenever they please test your birds, take their geggs away.... and mayhem ensues! and they can destroy as and when they please as a "precaution"..............
 
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I have heard the same thing that people here are afraid to get a license because of this.
Thats the reason i decided not to be licensed.



Speckled hen i have the same policy here no bird ever returns to my property.
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hence my illegal pet chickens. I know there are other people in my area/city that have them illegally as well. But none of us want to make them legal in the city for fear of having them killed because of some ignorance and panic.
 
The only time I have ever heard of someone's whole flock being destroyed is when Exotic Newcastle's Disease is suspected. It is almost 100% fatal and there is fear that it could destroy the poultry industry if there were an outbreak. If they were testing this guy's birds and destroyed his whole flock, they must have found *something* serious. I am not saying it was Newcastle's, but I would think it had to have been disease related.

There was a case many years ago (like late '80's it seems like) with a large bird dealer. I did a quick internet search and can't find anything about it, but it seems like she was in Cape Girardeau (sp?), Missouri if my memory is correct. I don't remember if she definitely had an outbreak, if it was just suspected, or what. Anyway, they came in and in one day killed all of her birds right there (several hundred thousand dollars in exotic birds). Maybe someone else remembers the story.
 

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