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Crazy Chicken Fever said:

Hello Everyone,

This is our light sussex roo, Toko. I was thinking of showing him this fall but I am new to the breed and would like some of your opinions on his quality. This pic is about 2 months old, hes grown a bit since this.

Please let me know what you all think :eek:)

Thank you in advance
-Jamie
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Jamie, Possible to get more pictures from the other side also. Male looks to have a split and twisted wing.
 
What exactly is a twisted wing? I've heard it before, but that time too, it was on a not so great picture and I couldn't tell what it was.
 
A lot to like about this bird, but needs conditioning. Maybe not a split wng. Maybe just not holding it tight enough against its body. Maybe can be trained to do that. See "How to train your bird to show" either in BYC or somewhere on the Net. Lovely hackle. Nice comb. Tail nice. Good to see the thigh feathering as sometime we see the thigh feathers obscured by the body feathering which is correct in Orpingtons, but not in Sussex. Nice structure in the breast but need conditioning to put in weight. don't use corn, use oats. corn can cause yellowing of white feathers as can sun, wind and rain. put him in a separate conditioning pen. Ask veteran sussex breeders who show how to condition.
Best,
Karen
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Two good examples of split wing pics.
http://www.ultimatefowl.com/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=7383
Correct wing structure:
http://www.freewebs.com/caladeniacottage/chickenstructures.htm
spread your bird's wing out as it would normally do. Not hyper-extend it. See what you have. If you put your fingers under the birds wing when you do this is, it possible by your hand placement to make the bird look like it has split wing.
Instead, just gently grasp the leading edge of the outer section of the birds wing and extend it. That way the feathers should open in the correct position for that bird's wing structure, whatever it is. Just like the person is doing in the pics in the "split wing" url above.
 
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Thank you so much Karen! Here are some more pictures of him. His wing is not twisted I looked he was just holding it funny. Feel free to Comment on the hen also.





See the black flecks on his back...is that a DQ in the show ring?

 
3riverschick said:
A lot to like about this bird, but needs conditioning. Maybe not a split wng. Maybe just not holding it tight enough against its body. Maybe can be trained to do that. See "How to train your bird to show" either in BYC or somewhere on the Net. Lovely hackle. Nice comb. Tail nice. Good to see the thigh feathering as sometime we see the thigh feathers obscured by the body feathering which is correct in Orpingtons, but not in Sussex. Nice structure in the breast but need conditioning to put in weight. don't use corn, use oats. corn can cause yellowing of white feathers as can sun, wind and rain. put him in a separate conditioning pen. Ask veteran sussex breeders who show how to condition.
Best,
Karen
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Two good examples of split wing pics.
http://www.ultimatefowl.com/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=7383
Correct wing structure:
http://www.freewebs.com/caladeniacottage/chickenstructures.htm
spread your bird's wing out as it would normally do. Not hyper-extend it. See what you have. If you put your fingers under the birds wing when you do this is, it possible by your hand placement to make the bird look like it has split wing.
Instead, just gently grasp the leading edge of the outer section of the birds wing and extend it. That way the feathers should open in the correct position for that bird's wing structure, whatever it is. Just like the person is doing in the pics in the "split wing" url above.
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Thank you for the info on split wing. Also good to know about the yellowing. Our LS does have yellowing to some feathers. Not sure if we will ever show him or not, but I wondered why he had it.
 
Don, perhaps you can further explain how to count the feathers looking for split wing--I still don't know all the wing anatomy to teach anyone anything.

The wind did look a little off in the first pic--but then DOn has a great eye!!

I sure wish white birds didn't get eaten by the hawks. I had ONE lt sussex pullet a year ago and I was stunned by her beauty and growth rate. Out grew everything I had including the marans.
 
Crazy Chicken Fever said:
Thank you so much Karen! Here are some more pictures of him. His wing is not twisted I looked he was just holding it funny. Feel free to Comment on the hen also.





See the black flecks on his back...is that a DQ in the show ring?

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Don't worry about the black ticking on the back. That is caused by 1 of 2 things. Either the bird is of "Light" coloration caused by the eb gene instead of the proper eWh gene...or... his sire's hackle was too dark ,and the ticking on his sons' back is a result of the uneven color balancing in the mating that created him. Now we know this boy is based on proper eWh because eb based birds have much more ticking on the back than this boy does. So it is a result of uneven color balancing in the breeding which created him. Not a big problem in the show ring. He can be used with a hen which balances his color. To see how to create the right breeding with him which will produce males w/o black ticking, see the book, The Sussex Fowl by Sharpe (the creator of the Light Sussex) at : http://archive.org/details/cu31924003091398
Judge Wid Card wrote a wonderful little book on poultry breeding laws written in easily understood verbage. http://archive.org/details/cu31924003158312 The whole book is a great read. For "Light" coloration, esp. see Chapter 2.
Nice boy! Loving his very correct hackle. Just perfect in coloration and placement. These very black hackles we see that literally form a black collar on the male are called "super hackles" and incorrect for the breed. The judges are gonna love your boys' hackle!! I would show him and then after Judging ask the judge for an eval.
Best,
Karen
P.S. Here are three more of my fav cites on Light Sussex. The one by Broomhead is a rare classic. I read it about once a week.
W.W. Broomhead was one of the three famous Broomhead brothers in poultry. He went on to become President of the British Poultry Club.
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1888 William Kitchen Parker On the structure and development of the wing in the common fowl Published by the Royal Society of London This is a paper published in the " Royal Society of London " . , Vol. 179 (1888 ) , B , pages 385 thru 398 . Plates 62 thru 65 . 14 pages of stunning colored diagrams from the Victorian era of biologically correct drawing . http://tinyurl.com/yh6zzok
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1959 J COHEN The pigment cell system in the Light Sussex fowl. Article in Publication: Journal of embryology and experimental morphology, 1959 Sep; 7: 361-74 Database: From MEDLINE
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, a database of the U.S. National Library of Medicine. ISBN/ISSN: 0950-1991 . "Summary" and the paragraph directly above it sum it up very well. Fascinating. It seems this study reveals that each feathers' color isn't programmed individually, but by how each feather interacts with the epidermis . http://tinyurl.com/ygrb7bb (just click on the "download button" .)
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The Light Sussex.
Author: Broomhead, William White, 1875-
Published: London, 1921.
Physical Description: 8 p.
http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo.31924003137332;q1=light sussex
 
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