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Thank you so much for your help! I do have Cephalexin....
Thank you so much for your help! I do have Cephalexin....
The WORST bumble-foot, ever?
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I don't know the dose of penicillin, but I can tell you that even terrible bumblefoot can be dealt with.
Wear gloves and wash up when you're done: I would wash, soak in salt of any kind, etc. as folk say, then soak a cottonball in a 50% water-to-povidone iodine (betadine) solution andput it on the wound. I then wrap it in medical tape and vet wrap nicely so that there's cotton around the area, providing support for the rest of the foot as a sort of orthopedic shoe.
Change this every other day, and you'll see that without the exposure to the ground, rough surfaces, bacteria and kept clean, his own system will work quite quickly on it.
If you can get penicillin or, preferably, Baytril into him, you'll be able to fight it systemically, as well.
If you don't have betadine, put a gob of antibiotic ointment on the cotton and wrap it up like I said before. It really can work well to protect it and allow it to sit in the ointment, too.
Good luck, and get us some pics so we can be more specific, girlie!!!
Wear gloves and wash up when you're done: I would wash, soak in salt of any kind, etc. as folk say, then soak a cottonball in a 50% water-to-povidone iodine (betadine) solution andput it on the wound. I then wrap it in medical tape and vet wrap nicely so that there's cotton around the area, providing support for the rest of the foot as a sort of orthopedic shoe.
Change this every other day, and you'll see that without the exposure to the ground, rough surfaces, bacteria and kept clean, his own system will work quite quickly on it.
If you can get penicillin or, preferably, Baytril into him, you'll be able to fight it systemically, as well.
If you don't have betadine, put a gob of antibiotic ointment on the cotton and wrap it up like I said before. It really can work well to protect it and allow it to sit in the ointment, too.
Good luck, and get us some pics so we can be more specific, girlie!!!
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Thank you! I am going to feed/water everything and then I'm bringing him inside for photos & surgery...if I can bring myself to do it.
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I would wait on invasive measures until I'd given it a chance without- it may not be necessary.
I would wait on invasive measures until I'd given it a chance without- it may not be necessary.
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Okay....so I brought him and soaked him in warm (almost hot) epsom salt water. He sat there in the bucket and seemed to enjoy it. I then used a stiff toothbrush and Ivory soap and scrubbed his feet. I didn't see anything on the bottoms, other than about 1/2" of caked on poop. After I removed that I went ahead and worked on his hock. That's the worst. I peeled all of the caked on poop, stuck feathers and crap off of it. I washed it and peeled off some layers until I got down to blood. I let it bleed out a little bit and then sprayed it with Granulex. I let that work for a little bit and then I used a q-tip and covered it in Neosporin. I then used a sterile gauze pad and put more neopsoirin on it and wrapped that with gauze bandage.
I then gave him a hard boiled eggs (he ate almost one whole one) and I opened a Cephalexin capsule and put that along with some crushed aspirin and Rooster Booster in his water bottle. He's was crowing and now he's resting in a dog crate in the laundry room with fresh pine shavings...
I then gave him a hard boiled eggs (he ate almost one whole one) and I opened a Cephalexin capsule and put that along with some crushed aspirin and Rooster Booster in his water bottle. He's was crowing and now he's resting in a dog crate in the laundry room with fresh pine shavings...
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I've been lurking on this thread, not having any experience w/ bumblefoot, but wanting to be prepaired in case. But I have questions for chookschick ................. The soaking in salt would epsom salt work? The medicated cotton ball "shoe" is that w/o needing to "remove the seed" as others talk about? If it is going to work how long before you know if this is working or you have to progress to more invasive means? Thanks.
I've been lurking on this thread, not having any experience w/ bumblefoot, but wanting to be prepaired in case. But I have questions for chookschick ................. The soaking in salt would epsom salt work? The medicated cotton ball "shoe" is that w/o needing to "remove the seed" as others talk about? If it is going to work how long before you know if this is working or you have to progress to more invasive means? Thanks.
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I've been lurking on this thread, not having any experience w/ bumblefoot, but wanting to be prepaired in case. But I have questions for chookschick ................. The soaking in salt would epsom salt work? The medicated cotton ball "shoe" is that w/o needing to "remove the seed" as others talk about? If it is going to work how long before you know if this is working or you have to progress to more invasive means? Thanks.
I have had multiple cases with vet assistance, and what I was directed to do was cut a piece of 'swim noodle' or other firm foam into a shoe, leaving a hole where the 'seed' was in the foot in question. I have had that be a black scabby seed, I've had it be a hard nodule inside the 'ball' of the foot, I've had it be an infected underside of the nail, etc.
In several cases where it was the black scab and it was easily removed, I've just scraped it off, squeezed it until it was clean blood, and then I put cotton or gauze on it with ointment. It was the closed cases where there was no opening or scab that freaked me out the most. The vets said to make the 'shoe' or use cotton to support the rest of the foot and leave a hollow under the hard nodule. Wrapping it with betadine or ointment gives it the opportunity to heal any unseen scratches, etc. The support allows it to stop being irritated and swollen inside. The wrap gives it the opportunity to be cushioned enough to heal.
I don't remove anything anymore. I just wrap and wait. If it's bad because I missed it, I change it every other day. If it's not bad, I just wrap it with ointment, cushioning, vet wrap, and wait a week. I check each week. They miraculously go away. It's counter to any logic, but I think their body just manages better without the exposure to the world.
I've been lurking on this thread, not having any experience w/ bumblefoot, but wanting to be prepaired in case. But I have questions for chookschick ................. The soaking in salt would epsom salt work? The medicated cotton ball "shoe" is that w/o needing to "remove the seed" as others talk about? If it is going to work how long before you know if this is working or you have to progress to more invasive means? Thanks.
I have had multiple cases with vet assistance, and what I was directed to do was cut a piece of 'swim noodle' or other firm foam into a shoe, leaving a hole where the 'seed' was in the foot in question. I have had that be a black scabby seed, I've had it be a hard nodule inside the 'ball' of the foot, I've had it be an infected underside of the nail, etc.
In several cases where it was the black scab and it was easily removed, I've just scraped it off, squeezed it until it was clean blood, and then I put cotton or gauze on it with ointment. It was the closed cases where there was no opening or scab that freaked me out the most. The vets said to make the 'shoe' or use cotton to support the rest of the foot and leave a hollow under the hard nodule. Wrapping it with betadine or ointment gives it the opportunity to heal any unseen scratches, etc. The support allows it to stop being irritated and swollen inside. The wrap gives it the opportunity to be cushioned enough to heal.
I don't remove anything anymore. I just wrap and wait. If it's bad because I missed it, I change it every other day. If it's not bad, I just wrap it with ointment, cushioning, vet wrap, and wait a week. I check each week. They miraculously go away. It's counter to any logic, but I think their body just manages better without the exposure to the world.
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Just catching up this morning....If I understand correctly he does not have bumblefoot just an infected hock. If I'm wrong please let me know.
What you did was great. Salt is good and I don't want to seem like I'm pushing the provodone iodine but it is a heck of a germ killer. It is one of the skin cleaners we use before surgery before an incision is made so germs are not introduced into the body. The drug stores have it under the actual name and under the store generic. It's what I use. Just make sure the soaking water looks like strong tea.
He's eating well and thats another good sign. I'm sending good thoughts your way.
What you did was great. Salt is good and I don't want to seem like I'm pushing the provodone iodine but it is a heck of a germ killer. It is one of the skin cleaners we use before surgery before an incision is made so germs are not introduced into the body. The drug stores have it under the actual name and under the store generic. It's what I use. Just make sure the soaking water looks like strong tea.
He's eating well and thats another good sign. I'm sending good thoughts your way.
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That's correct. He did have what I think were the beginnings of infection on his feet--black, scabby looking things mostly on his toes...I used tweezers dipped in alcohol to pry those off. They were a little pink underneath but no blood.
He woke up the house this morning to VERY loud crowing, LOL I changed his water/medicine and gave him some more hard boiled egg and a little cat food.
Oh and another funny thing...I went to move some towels from the washer into the dryer (he's in the laundry room) and he made the LOUDEST dino-roar I've ever heard a chicken make!
Even though I knew it was him and he's locked in a crate and sweet...it still gave me chills, LOL
That's correct. He did have what I think were the beginnings of infection on his feet--black, scabby looking things mostly on his toes...I used tweezers dipped in alcohol to pry those off. They were a little pink underneath but no blood.
He woke up the house this morning to VERY loud crowing, LOL I changed his water/medicine and gave him some more hard boiled egg and a little cat food.
Oh and another funny thing...I went to move some towels from the washer into the dryer (he's in the laundry room) and he made the LOUDEST dino-roar I've ever heard a chicken make!
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Oh and I do have iodine (we have horses too so I always have some of that) but I was paranoid about using in the house (it stains everything) and I was wrasslin' him with one hand. When DH gets back, he can be the official rooster-holder (outside) while I put some on a q-tip and try to apply it that way.
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