The Wyandotte Thread

Quote: I have LF Chocolate Wyandottes. I know all the potential problems. I have rec white in my Lavenders too. Dom white is EASY to eliminate... rec white not so much. I might give it a go. Lets see what someone else has to say.

Black Wyandottes.... anybody know of some HUGE ones?
 
Can someone give me some advice. I have 3 HUGE white Wyandotte, 2 cockerels and 1 pullet. My question is would there be enough benefit to cross them with my chocolates to improve size? Are most WW dom white or rec white? (guessing recessive) I know I would have to do ons of test mating to remove recessive white.

Would you do it or not?
easy answer, NO! white hides too many other mutations that would muddy the waters considerably. if anything i would use maybe a partridge since there are only a couple mutations involved with that variety. even black can be known to hide many things. you could use the chocolate with gold laced maybe, and then breeding back eliminate the mutations as they appear, or even incorporate the chocolate into the gold laced. or even with silver laced, that'd be lovely. brown lacing on a white feather? 8) oh the possibilities...
 
Quote: Thanks! I have thought about the SLW crossing.
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What about a black laced Red? I don't have goldens...... Will the Mahogany gene mess them up too much?
 
Since I love Wyandottes so much, I fell in love with SLW last year at a show. The woman purchased her huge birds from..Dick. I have seen in the mean time some really outstanding SLW on here. BYC is new for me. I have read where some can tell sex of SLW at hatch.
The only way I can think of day old sexing for wyandottes without vent sexing is feather sexing but that can be difficult as well. You need to selectively breed slow feathering males to fast feathering females to get a visual change that is easy to tell apart. It can work but if you don't breed for it it has a low chance of working. With out breeding for it the differences can be so subtle you can't tell or there will be no visual difference. There still will be differences but it will be quite difficult. I briefly looked into it but want to read more up on the feather sexing and the breeding behind it. I just wait until 2-3 weeks and I have been pretty accurate with sexing at that age by visual means.
 
easy answer, NO!  white hides too many other mutations that would muddy the waters considerably.  if anything i would use maybe a partridge since there are only a couple mutations involved with that variety.  even black can be known to hide many things. you could use the chocolate with gold laced maybe, and then breeding back eliminate the mutations as they appear, or even incorporate the chocolate into the gold laced. or even with silver laced, that'd be lovely. brown lacing on a white feather?  8) oh the possibilities...


All this talk about crosses makes me want to experiment! A chocolate laced Wyandotte would be so cool....
 
Quote: Thanks! I have thought about the SLW crossing.
lau.gif
What about a black laced Red? I don't have goldens...... Will the Mahogany gene mess them up too much?
mahogany is dominant, so breeding F1 together you'll be able to select for those that do NOT have it... or breed F1 to whatever the goal is, if it's just plain chocolate.
 
Finally got some updated pictures of my birds. After the fox attack only 2 pullets that I wanted to keep survived and the 2 cockerels that made it have dirty coloring. Good type but I really don't think I will keep them due to color. Going to finally start hatching soon!

Sarge the rooster


partridge wyandotte about 10-12 months old


Partridge wyandotte hen

SLW cockerel (9 months) with dirty color. Not sure if I should keep him or not... pretty sure I'm going to cull him.... thoughts?


SLW pullet and cockerel


SLW pullet (9-10 months)

Sarge and one of his girls

SLW hen

Sarges girls in my yellow coop

SLW pullets (about 9-10 months old)

SLW pullet (about 10 months old)
 

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