The Wyandotte Thread

[McSpin]

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They are co-dominat to each other. It means there is a blending of traits. And yes, the punnett square is a useful tool for beginners when figuring outcomes of simple traits that follow Mendel's law of independent assortment.

 

[BCBrian]

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You've got it BC Gal!

The reason I commented, is because time and time again I read where people buy birds thinking they are "carrying" a trait that they want to instill in their line of birds - only to find out later that they have purchased birds that won't let them go to where they want to get.

The simple way to think of it, is that recessive genes (usually written with small letters in their notation) CAN be "carried" hidden within the genetic make-up of the bird. When two carriers with the same hidden gene are bred together the seemingly miraculous "throwback" occurs. Dominant genes (usually notated with capital letters) can NOT be "carried" within the bird. If the bird has the dominant gene - it shows it.

In human genetics, thats why brown-eyed parents can have a blue-eyed kid (blue being a recessive to brown) because each brown-eyed parent carried the recessive blue-eyed gene hidden, within their own genetic make up. Two blue eyed parents can't have a brown eyed kid - because of the dominance of the brown-eyed gene won't allow it to be carried and hidden. If the brown-eyed gene is there (even in a single copy) - then the person will have brown eyes.

I was once teaching this lesson in class, and had a student start crying and leave the class. This girl's blue-eyed parents had hidden the fact that they had adopted this brown-eyed girl. My lesson on genetics (and Punnet Squares) provided the girl with the truth that had been withheld from her for so many years. It was sad - but in the end it turned out well.

Everyone unsure of genetics should always look up whether a given gene is dominant or recessive and know and remember - if it's a dominant gene - it can't be "carried" - no matter what the parents look like.

 

[yoker]

Here are some pics of my GLW what do you think?
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Roo: ( I know he has a single comb but he is my only roo So I think I will have to use him, what is your opinion).

Hen 2:

How good of quality are they?

 

[BCBrian]

Are you familiar with the Wyandotte Standard?

It call for a pretty specific set of characteristics - the most important being the over-all shape of the birds. When proper - it's a shape that resembles no other chicken.

 

[BCBrian]

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That's true. But the black is giving no blue to the offspring. It's all coming from the parent showing the blue (or the double dose "splash") in this case. You could breed a splash to any black-carrying chicken on earth and still get blue - but the blue all comes from the blue or splash parent - never from the black. A black (out of blue lines) bred to another black (out of blue lines) will only give you blacks - regardless of the number of generations of blue in its ancestry.

 

[chickee]

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Thanks BC Gal

Your girl is beautiful!

I was hoping for a" Black" Blue Laced Red Roo (Looks like a Gold Laced but carries the Blue gene) to breed to my Splash pullets to get all Blue babies but no such luck

I am keeping a Blue roo and Blue pullet to breed so I should get some Black BLRWs eventually.

I just wanted to point out (if you didn't already know it) that a bird can't CARRY the blue gene. Due to blue being dominant to black it is blue (or splash if it gets two blue genes) or it is not. Any bird "looking like a Gold Laced" can't carry the blue gene.

Unless you meant Lavender - but that's a whole other kettle of fish.

SO funny that everyone got so worked up because I accidently wrote "Blue" instead of "Red" gene!!

I had way too many splash BLRW chicks hatch out this season and was hoping for a Black BLRW roo to bring more Blue back into the flock!

 

[BC Gal]

Yoker - your girls look really sweet and all three are filling in beautifully

Lol Chickee, your typo led to a really interesting conversation

Another ? for BC Brian and/or McSpin - with humans, recessive genetic traits are why we can't marry our relatives; do chicken genes carry rare deformities, etc. in the recessive gene?

 

[colby318]

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That's true. But the black is giving no blue to the offspring. It's all coming from the parent showing the blue (or the double dose "splash") in this case. You could breed a splash to any black-carrying chicken on earth and still get blue - but the blue all comes from the blue or splash parent - never from the black. A black (out of blue lines) bred to another black (out of blue lines) will only give you blacks - regardless of the number of generations of blue in its ancestry.

Thank you for telling me something I already knew.

 

[cracked_egg]

I think of the blue gene "like" a dilution gene. Meaning when present on a black bird, it "dilutes" it to gray, two copies present "dilutes" it twice so you get a light light gray to white-ish color. If the bird is black it doesn't carry the blue gene at all. This is just how I sort it out due to horse background. Hth

 

[flower]

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another interesting post for those of us who do not have knowledge or spend much time learning about genetic facts. THANK YOU from me