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Splash to splash = 100% splash breed with dr blue roo get better coloring and 50% each.
Splash to splash = 100% splash breed with dr blue roo get better coloring and 50% each.
The Wyandotte Thread
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Just had to share my good news. I am getting 20 BLRW from Foleys,puals,sterling lines. (BLUE POULTRY)
They ship out Tue.
I'll post pics when I get them in.
They ship out Tue.
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congratulations soaring chicks - - You must post pics . . . .
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OH I will it's X-mas early this year!
Just need to find my arm now,before the leg goes too.
Thank you! To bad I'm only keeping 1/2 of them. Have 2 people wanting a coulpe to one & 5 to the other,but they are not getting close till I get my picks done and over with!
Got my legbands in the mail for No one can try to slip one by me, I waited toooooo long for these.
( mind you I'm npip so they only get to pick out what I bring to them anyway) So the slip by me would be me not anyone else.
(well maybe the chicks)
OH I will it's X-mas early this year!
Thank you! To bad I'm only keeping 1/2 of them. Have 2 people wanting a coulpe to one & 5 to the other,but they are not getting close till I get my picks done and over with!
Got my legbands in the mail for No one can try to slip one by me, I waited toooooo long for these.
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I'll expand a bit on this. Although the lab animals tend to be healthier, it's largely because genetic disorders are bred out of many of them. However, many are very susceptible to infections and contagious pathogens. Their immune systems are often compromised to the point where they have to be kept in very clean, almost sterile conditions. The reason has to do with how immune system genetics work. It's different from the normal genetics of other traits. It's actually very complex, but basically through a process of recombination, gene segments combine randomly to create enormous numbers (millions) of new genes, each capable of fighting a different problem. The more diverse it is, the more problems it can fight. This system depends on diversity of the parent-stock immune system. Inbreeding eventually causes a loss of diversity and can only be recovered with outcrosses to stock that contain different gene segments. Linebreeding was developed to combat this problem without losing too many of the positive traits of the group. Linebreeding allows for a more diverse immune system by keeping several groups of related individuals that are systematically crossed to each other. In other words, it's a method of controlled inbreeding.
I'll expand a bit on this. Although the lab animals tend to be healthier, it's largely because genetic disorders are bred out of many of them. However, many are very susceptible to infections and contagious pathogens. Their immune systems are often compromised to the point where they have to be kept in very clean, almost sterile conditions. The reason has to do with how immune system genetics work. It's different from the normal genetics of other traits. It's actually very complex, but basically through a process of recombination, gene segments combine randomly to create enormous numbers (millions) of new genes, each capable of fighting a different problem. The more diverse it is, the more problems it can fight. This system depends on diversity of the parent-stock immune system. Inbreeding eventually causes a loss of diversity and can only be recovered with outcrosses to stock that contain different gene segments. Linebreeding was developed to combat this problem without losing too many of the positive traits of the group. Linebreeding allows for a more diverse immune system by keeping several groups of related individuals that are systematically crossed to each other. In other words, it's a method of controlled inbreeding.
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I don't believe there is a genetic mechanism to explain the theory that continuous breeding of one colour together can alter it. If splash is bred to splash continuously for many generations,coupled with selection for the most intense colours, it should be possible to maintain and even deepen the colours selected for. I'd guess that Stombergs birds just haven't been selected for intensity of colour (along with the required double dose of the Mahogany gene) needed to maintain depth of colour in reds. I have also heard that Stombergs (like many other commercial hatcheries) farms out the breeding of many of their orders to individual breeders. Those same breeders keep the best birds for themselves, sell the next best birds themselves to their own customers, and what's left goes to fulfill the hatchery orders. Therefore, many hatchery birds are actually three rungs down on the quality ladder.
I don't believe there is a genetic mechanism to explain the theory that continuous breeding of one colour together can alter it. If splash is bred to splash continuously for many generations,coupled with selection for the most intense colours, it should be possible to maintain and even deepen the colours selected for. I'd guess that Stombergs birds just haven't been selected for intensity of colour (along with the required double dose of the Mahogany gene) needed to maintain depth of colour in reds. I have also heard that Stombergs (like many other commercial hatcheries) farms out the breeding of many of their orders to individual breeders. Those same breeders keep the best birds for themselves, sell the next best birds themselves to their own customers, and what's left goes to fulfill the hatchery orders. Therefore, many hatchery birds are actually three rungs down on the quality ladder.
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I don't believe there is a genetic mechanism to explain the theory that continuous breeding of one colour together can alter it. If splash is bred to splash continuously for many generations,coupled with selection for the most intense colours, it should be possible to maintain and even deepen the colours selected for. I'd guess that Stombergs birds just haven't been selected for intensity of colour (along with the required double dose of the Mahogany gene) needed to maintain depth of colour in reds. I have also heard that Stombergs (like many other commercial hatcheries) farms out the breeding of many of their orders to individual breeders. Those same breeders keep the best birds for themselves, sell the next best birds themselves to their own customers, and what's left goes to fulfill the hatchery orders. Therefore, many hatchery birds are actually three rungs down on the quality ladder.
I have an oooggly flock of birds.............
but that is it for now, just in case the POLICE are called to take them away. When I move to my larger space, I'll find a pea combed, slate legged, mahogany rooster and raise EE of all colors.
I don't believe there is a genetic mechanism to explain the theory that continuous breeding of one colour together can alter it. If splash is bred to splash continuously for many generations,coupled with selection for the most intense colours, it should be possible to maintain and even deepen the colours selected for. I'd guess that Stombergs birds just haven't been selected for intensity of colour (along with the required double dose of the Mahogany gene) needed to maintain depth of colour in reds. I have also heard that Stombergs (like many other commercial hatcheries) farms out the breeding of many of their orders to individual breeders. Those same breeders keep the best birds for themselves, sell the next best birds themselves to their own customers, and what's left goes to fulfill the hatchery orders. Therefore, many hatchery birds are actually three rungs down on the quality ladder.
I have an oooggly flock of birds.............
but that is it for now, just in case the POLICE are called to take them away. When I move to my larger space, I'll find a pea combed, slate legged, mahogany rooster and raise EE of all colors.
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I don't believe there is a genetic mechanism to explain the theory that continuous breeding of one colour together can alter it. If splash is bred to splash continuously for many generations,coupled with selection for the most intense colours, it should be possible to maintain and even deepen the colours selected for. I'd guess that Stombergs birds just haven't been selected for intensity of colour (along with the required double dose of the Mahogany gene) needed to maintain depth of colour in reds. I have also heard that Stombergs (like many other commercial hatcheries) farms out the breeding of many of their orders to individual breeders. Those same breeders keep the best birds for themselves, sell the next best birds themselves to their own customers, and what's left goes to fulfill the hatchery orders. Therefore, many hatchery birds are actually three rungs down on the quality ladder.
I'd love to see some pictures of your wyandottes
I don't believe there is a genetic mechanism to explain the theory that continuous breeding of one colour together can alter it. If splash is bred to splash continuously for many generations,coupled with selection for the most intense colours, it should be possible to maintain and even deepen the colours selected for. I'd guess that Stombergs birds just haven't been selected for intensity of colour (along with the required double dose of the Mahogany gene) needed to maintain depth of colour in reds. I have also heard that Stombergs (like many other commercial hatcheries) farms out the breeding of many of their orders to individual breeders. Those same breeders keep the best birds for themselves, sell the next best birds themselves to their own customers, and what's left goes to fulfill the hatchery orders. Therefore, many hatchery birds are actually three rungs down on the quality ladder.
I'd love to see some pictures of your wyandottes
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I don't believe there is a genetic mechanism to explain the theory that continuous breeding of one colour together can alter it. If splash is bred to splash continuously for many generations,coupled with selection for the most intense colours, it should be possible to maintain and even deepen the colours selected for. I'd guess that Stombergs birds just haven't been selected for intensity of colour (along with the required double dose of the Mahogany gene) needed to maintain depth of colour in reds. I have also heard that Stombergs (like many other commercial hatcheries) farms out the breeding of many of their orders to individual breeders. Those same breeders keep the best birds for themselves, sell the next best birds themselves to their own customers, and what's left goes to fulfill the hatchery orders. Therefore, many hatchery birds are actually three rungs down on the quality ladder.
I don't think that's really how it is. Hatchery birds may be 3 rungs down the ladder, but most hatcheries just breed for quantity not quality so what they sell isn't that great. It's impossible to tell what a day old chick is going to grow out to be so I don't see any way they could keep the best back for themselves. They just are not picky about the quality of their parent stock.
I don't believe there is a genetic mechanism to explain the theory that continuous breeding of one colour together can alter it. If splash is bred to splash continuously for many generations,coupled with selection for the most intense colours, it should be possible to maintain and even deepen the colours selected for. I'd guess that Stombergs birds just haven't been selected for intensity of colour (along with the required double dose of the Mahogany gene) needed to maintain depth of colour in reds. I have also heard that Stombergs (like many other commercial hatcheries) farms out the breeding of many of their orders to individual breeders. Those same breeders keep the best birds for themselves, sell the next best birds themselves to their own customers, and what's left goes to fulfill the hatchery orders. Therefore, many hatchery birds are actually three rungs down on the quality ladder.
I don't think that's really how it is. Hatchery birds may be 3 rungs down the ladder, but most hatcheries just breed for quantity not quality so what they sell isn't that great. It's impossible to tell what a day old chick is going to grow out to be so I don't see any way they could keep the best back for themselves. They just are not picky about the quality of their parent stock.
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do wyandottes need high protien feed?
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