The Wyandotte Thread

[WyandotteTX]

Amen Rudy! Couldnt have said it better myself.

I was just wondering how much crossing anyone has done with the GL and the very good quality SL that are out there? I have known many bantams breeders who have done so. With crossing the best GL male onto as good a SL females as you could find you would get improved type GL pullets from that cross. The roosters would be throw aways but the females would at least give you the better type and size the SL has.
This cross works with Partridge/SP and GL/SL, for that matter it also would work with Columbian and Buff Columbian. The Gold/Silver cross will always give you pullets of the male bird used. Just depends on what you have that is better in quality than the other.

The GL females color might lighten a little bit but at least you will get better type and size.........

 

[Mrs. Turbo]

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I will have to check this one out....maybe I will put a link to it on the Wyandotte Breeders of America club website.

ETA: Guess that is the same one we have saved on the computer, but thanks for the link again.

 

[WyandotteTX]

Rudy, funny thing about that SP male I had was...he was a product of a LF/Bantam cross between my SP. A complete accident to say the least. The smaller birds I got from that cross I bred with bantams and the larger ones went into the LF line. I would have never thought of trying it on my own, just a productive accident. The bantams seemed to throw a refinement onto the LF that they had been lacking. The LF gave much better egg laying ability to the bantams than they had ever had before.

 

[Mrs. Turbo]

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The SLW cross seems to be a good choice for a lot of the wyandotte colors. Works well on the BLRWs too. We like to pick a few of them to do at one time to see what works. Some of them work on paper, but when you do the cross it doesn't always come out the way it is supposed to.

 

[rtroxel]

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I would say that you might even keep some of the males. That color should come back in the second generation 100%. It's something I've wanted to try for so long but I haven't had the GL to try it! I had a few 10 years ago but....I think it's a no-brainer! Should a 3-4 generation project, max. But here are two areas that I would worry about: Shafting and brassiness.

 

[WyandotteTX]

Yes you are correct about the males of that cross. Those males can be crossed against either GL or SL and you will get either progeny.

I did this with my SP a few years back. Im gonna attach a photo of one of those males from the SP/Partridge cross that I was using on my SP hens because he had such great type.

 

[WyandotteTX]

You are correct also about the shafting and brassiness. It seems to be such an issue in GL. When I had alot of GL bantams I ran into that same problem. Males were not near as bad as the females.
My answer to the brassiness is always keep a "pure" bird of the color that you can always cross back into the gold/silver progeny so that you can reinvigorate the color of the gold and clear up the brassiness of silver.

 

[cedar post]

Thanks I always learn something from all of posts on this stuff about crossings. I'm actually doing a LF buff columbian wyandotte project and am on the second stage f1 roos over f1 pullets and have the incubator full. I'm kinda excited about it. I know I have to hatch quite a few to get a fairly decent rooster to work with.

 

[colby318]

Mrs. Turbo :

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I'll trade them for a couple of black chicks...

that doesn't sound like a very fair trade...chicks for a full grown pair....would have to be a box of chicks. Jerry said if you let him and Nathan take your Jeep for a spin to McDonalds and back he will think about it.....

Sounds like a deal, Lucille.

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

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I have not seen Edgar since the mid 90's. Could have set right next to him at Shawnee and not known it. A fellow set up a booth with carry coops next to us. I said hello to the guy. It was only after I seen his name on the coops that I realized he was Corkee Higbee. We all change over the years. At the APA banquet an older couple sat at our table. When they introduced themselves it was Mr and Mrs Don Kelso.

I spoke with Sam Brush a few months ago. We started talking about his Naked Neck Bantams. I mentioned Edgar Petty had been the one to introduce the dark red black tail. Sam said he was going to have to call Edgar. With so many old breeders passing away, I was happy to hear Edgar was still among us.