The Wyandotte Thread

[phasianidae]

You should all move to MN! its supposed to be 36 today!

 

[Duramaxgirl]

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She's pretty! Where did you get her?

 

[Whimsy]

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very pretty girl you have there.

 

[Papa Mel]

I would like for someone who breeds Patridge Wyandottes Bantams to tell me if they breed true to color. Also what combinations go together to produce the Crele color as well as Cuckoo and Blue Red Lace. I am new to this but am very interested in breeding Wyandottes. A simplified "elementary" formula would be great. I would like to post pictures but for some reason I cannot because I am a Newbie. Papa Mel

 

[phasianidae]

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Yes Partridge Wyandottes in the US breed true. In the UK and some other places they are double mated for exhibition because the males are required to have lemon hackles, and the females are required to have the pattern gene. The exhibition males in the UK do not breed true because they rely on a single copy of the recessive white gene to make the hackles apear lemon, therefore when a lemon hackled male is bred to a lemon hackled female, 50% have lemon hackles 25% have gold hackles and 25% are self white. The Partridge Wyandottes in the US are known as American Mohogany Wyandottes and they do breed true, they are basically brown(partridge) with the addition of the pattern gene(Pg) and and mohogany(Mh). Crele Wyandottes are red duckwing with the barring gene. Blue Laced Red Wyandottes are genetically the same as American Partridge Wyandottes with the addition of both melanotic and columbian genes. I only have one Splash Wyandotte so I am sorry I could not provide pictures. I am sorry if it is a little "overboard", hope this helps.

 

[WyandotteTX]

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Here are some pictures of some Partridge bantams from a friend of mine who has been raising them for a couple of decades. His are extremely nice birds. From what I have read from the Rare Varieties book written by Wyandotte breeders you can create Crele by crossing White with Partridge but the better cross would be White with Red Pyle. Problem there is Red Pyle Wyandotte bantams do not exist.....
With bantam varieties in the US you could create a Blue Laced Gold by crossing Golden Laced and Blue. I have bred these before and they dont look bad but dont have that dark red color of Blue Laced Red.

 

[turbo]

Mrs. Turbo finally bought me a new camera, its snowing and cold here but I took the camera out and snapped a few shots of the birds I have in the breeding pens. I did get a little chicken poop on the new camera...I will probably get in to trouble for that...

This guy is in my SLW pen 1

2010 Cockerel in Breeding pen 2

2010 BLRW cockerel in Breeding pen

2010 SLW cockerel I am holding back to see if I like him...boy he doesnt like the snow

 

[WyandotteTX]

Nice pics Turbo. Bout time she bought you a new camera.......haha.....although getting poop on it isnt such a good thing on the first day...

 

[phasianidae]

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From what I have read from the Rare Varieties book written by Wyandotte breeders you can create Crele by crossing White with Partridge but the better cross would be White with Red Pyle. Problem there is Red Pyle Wyandotte bantams do not exist.....

White in Wyandottes is recessive so unless you know the genetic backround of your whites then that would not be a sure way to getting crele.

 

[WyandotteTX]

I am just going off of what I have read and been told by the Wyandotte bantam guru, Dr Edgar Petty. I have seen the progeny of this cross though. A friend of mine who raises both Whites and Partridges did this cross a long time ago.... The females were Crele/Cuckoo in coloration but the males were trash. Now where you would go after that cross I have no idea.....