This does not look like a turkey to me

I often wonder why they don't just make labradoodles a breed, but they are not. They still breed a poodle and a labrador, although they complicate it with second generation labradoodle bred back to the poodle, or something like that.
Just wanted to respond to this one part. Last I heard there were people working towards making labradoodles a breed, and I believe they are breeding true. Or they are working towards it. I don't follow doodle mixes so what I know I've read in passing, I think they are calling them Australian Labradoodles. I think most people that breed these mix dogs are in it for a quick buck and it would take a lot of time and money to get them to the point of a breed.
 
Good writeup @eep0100 and :welcome

If the hatchery can get birds of the same "type" to breed true even 50% of the time, that is one requirement to getting the breed recognized. BUT there have to be a minimum number of breeders breeding them repeatedly/reliably for some set number of years before they can even apply to the APA.

I guess they can trademark the name, but they can't keep others from crossing the same APA breeds and calling them something else.
 
Just wanted to respond to this one part. Last I heard there were people working towards making labradoodles a breed, and I believe they are breeding true. Or they are working towards it. I don't follow doodle mixes so what I know I've read in passing, I think they are calling them Australian Labradoodles. I think most people that breed these mix dogs are in it for a quick buck and it would take a lot of time and money to get them to the point of a breed.
I don't know too much about it. I just think, since they are so popular, there should be people working on making them a breed. If this is the kind of dog that really fits the lifestyle of the 21st century, it should be. Also, they used to be a big dog, and bred to standard poodles, but now I've noticed they are much smaller. I think breeding to a miniature poodle. (Maybe Goldendoodles.) Maybe they still haven't figured out where this is going.
 
Good writeup @eep0100 and :welcome

If the hatchery can get birds of the same "type" to breed true even 50% of the time, that is one requirement to getting the breed recognized. BUT there have to be a minimum number of breeders breeding them repeatedly/reliably for some set number of years before they can even apply to the APA.

I guess they can trademark the name, but they can't keep others from crossing the same APA breeds and calling them something else.
THanks! So, I guess between getting a name from a hatchery and being recognized by APA is a kind of gray area. It's an unrecognized breed. I don't judge - I think new things are good as long as they don't supplant old things ;)
 
I have no problem with non breed "breeds", my only issue is the hatcheries that happily give their sex links "breed" names but sell their Easter Eggers as Ameraucana or Araucana ... which they are decidedly NOT. I have 4 EEs, love them.
 

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