This is INSANE,where do these people come from????Update, Pg 5

[Wifezilla]

I just had my oldest son and my brother-in-law read this entire post. One is a police officer and the other is a former "bad guy". They both told me to ask you the same question. Have your dogs stopped barking when he comes around? People like this will often take however long it takes to get everyone used to having him around. Becoming more adventurous as time passes. Dogs will quit barking at him, folks will stop worrying about it and just write it off and stop being so alert to him. That is when it becomes safe for him to start venturing further into the yard, like into the back where he can't be seen from the street, and to eventually enter a house.

They both also made a couple of the same suggestions; 1- continue to call the police every time you see him. 2- enlist the help of all your neighbors, asking them to keep an eye out all hours of the day/night. Ask them to call you if they see him to let you know he is there in case you aren't aware, and they should call the police also immediately after alerting you. 3- If you do not have a big, mean, dog, can you "borrow" one for a couple of days? If so, as soon as he sets one foot on your property open the door just enough to release that big dog and let him at the guy. 4- (I'm sure you don't need to be told this, but I'm passing on what they said) Keep a very close eye on your teen daughter! Have someone be outside whenever she is coming or going from your house. Don't let her be home alone. Stress to her that these rules are absolutely necessary until things have been made right. Teens will fight the hovering, but they don't always know what is best for them. Both men agreed that if a guy like this becomes obsessed with a young girl, they will take their time and do whatever it takes...

I found it interesting that both of these men said nearly identical things, independently of each other. (One lives in Las Vegas and the other in Wisconsin). One thing they both stressed is that this is not normal "disgruntled neighbor" behavior. This is a nutcase. Do not let your guard down.

 

[MagsC]

Thank you everybody, for the constructive comments and also the laughs. I need both!
dovecanyon, luckily we DO have a big mean dog.(Chow cross) One of my daughters lived with us for close to a year and he STILL saw her as an intruder. He is completely loyal and listens to myself and teen.
We also have several small dogs that are very disinclined to shut up,lol.

The dogs are more often than not the reason I KNOW when he is around (without hovering by the front window and looking out of course). "Sneaking" is not an easy thing around here. Also, we do have good neighbors, the ones directly next door of which have had problems with him. That kind of adds up too you know? They are a young couple and he is working out of state at the moment. She was actually the first one who said anything to me about it and we compared notes.
The older lady behind us works nights but there is a welding shop that stays open late and opens quite early. We are kitty corner from the post office and across from the city office (if 400 people can be called a city!) and I have spoken to both of those people.
Especially the post mistress knows most everybody. So they know to watch, at least during business hours.
I have been keeping my cell phone on me at all times. When my daughter goes out with her boyfriend (big guy), he always escorts her to the car and then back to the house, and she is versed well in locking up immediately. We always lock our doors and windows, even if it only helps a little. If I go someplace, she goes as well. She is aware of what is going on and willing to cooperate.
Its been VERY cold here so I cant imagine he would like to hover around too long in these temps, but you never know.One of the good things is, I believe from all of the information being passed back and forth, its becoming easier for the police to zero in on who he is. They couldnt pass on rumors of course but I believe(hope) they have him pegged.
I have to admit that at first I was more annoyed/angry than anything but I am glad I posted this because it gave me other viewpoints as to how serious this really could be. Though my instincts were/are telling me there is more to this than dog poop.

 

[Tala]

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Har har. True dat.
Someone busted my truck window because of some things at work....lets just say that payback was served, and it was bad enough that I haven't heard a peep from them since!

Really though, laws were broken, police were called, things got messy before they got better. DO NOT start something that you are not willing to finish.

One of the good things is, I believe from all of the information being passed back and forth, its becoming easier for the police to zero in on who he is. They couldnt pass on rumors of course but I believe(hope) they have him pegged.
I have to admit that at first I was more annoyed/angry than anything but I am glad I posted this because it gave me other viewpoints as to how serious this really could be. Though my instincts were/are telling me there is more to this than dog poop.

Sounds like you're making progress, without creating a war. Good for you!!! I'm glad your police seem to be helping you.
Good luck and be safe!!!!​

 

[seminolewind]

The guy would be scaring me. He's on the same level as a peeping tom/stalker to me. He has no right entering your property, I don't care how many crayons his box is missing. If he can walk his dog, he understands what "do not enter" means.

If the cops are involved, why is he still coming on to your property?
Picture or no picture, have the cops talked to your neighbors-the ones who sees this?
Are you calling the cops enough? Can you get a restraining order?

I would be taking action. This really shouldn't still be happening.

 

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

All you need is to get somebody to go all "Boondock Saints" on him.

 

[KKatknap]

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OK. Dove's post gave me serious chills. The fact that the other neighbor having same issues is home alone FREAKS ME OUT!!! Please help watch her back as well. Pass all this along to her. Does she have a nasty dog?

 

[Tala]

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Unfortunately, the perp must actually harm you before the cops will issue a restraining order. Nice, huh?

Belive me, I tried to get one against the people involved in my previous post. When the DA said they couldn't do anything for me until she actually DID something....well....

 

[Chickie'sMoma]

i just went through this whole post and it is just chilling to think that there are some creepy people trying stuff like this.

could this guy be renting from someone in the area or in a nearby town/city? it could be why no one really knew of him at first-he may not have an address change on file with the post office. i would see about setting up a neighborhood watch of some sort and if it might be possible to post signs for it. i'm not sure how effective those are but i know while living in my parents' neighborhood that we all kept an eye open for strange people walking through and neighbors would be on alert as soon as something was out of the ordinary. we've had about 3-4 occasions in the last 10 years that required the police because the person was caught by a neighbor. and in our neighborhood we have a lot of 'city' people. (ward counselor, former police officer, school board member).

do you know if in your area you can do a 'citizens arrest'?

it could be that this guy is also using his dog to get the local dogs used to its scent being around your yard. if it is a female it is probably not spayed just as a precaution for any male dogs to lure them away.

i've seen some little alarms you can get to put on your windows that trip a loud noise if the connection is broken. you may want to see about getting a few put on your windows. if you have to follow this guy i would suggest taking someone else with you as a witness and possible backup if something should happen.

good luck with this! hope they catch the a...um..fill in the blank here.

 

[drumstick diva]

MagsC I think the best thing you can do is get the game cam out where you can get photos of him(for ID). I wouldn't confront him anymore. You can do passive, random things that he wouldn't necessarily think are aimed at him. I know there are motion detector devices (to chase off deer, stray dogs etc.) that respond by shooting out streams of water. Gee it's not your fault if he and his dog triggers them. If you live in a colder climate, maybe you could follow his tracks in the snow while you are casually walking your dog. Get your daughters boy friend to come along. In fact if you have male relatives/friends/ etc. it would be good for them to show their presence as often as possible. Not threatening him but, letting him see you are NOT alone.

You could also sprinkle alot of pepper around where the dog goes. Once he gets it up his nose, he'll forget about going potty. I had to use it for a neighbors dog because I didn't want to fight with them - otherwise they were good people. This way I didn't have to - a couple sneezing spells and the dog decided on his own my mailbox post, wasn't as attractive as before. He also gave up tearing open my garbage bags.

It's hard to act nonchalant but, it's really better than showing fear or anger at him. Perverts thrive on your reactions. I did think right away he is seeking women alone (of any age). something I devote alot of worry to myself. While you "aren't" really noticing him, try to scan for things that set him apart, maybe a limp, a scar, his facial features are like, hair, glasses or not, baseball cap,
the type of clothes he wears, how he interacts with the dog, what he calls him etc. All of this can help to form a better description for the police.

I hope this gets resolved soon - I am subscribing to this site till I hear everything is okay. It sounds stupid but, you can actually learn something from the CSI shows, Criminal INtent ,the profilers etc. I know it has made me more aware .

PS Let the other neighbor know you have her back and will be watching to see if he is on her property as well.

 

[MagsC]

Alright. I am up early because I couldnt sleep.I wonder why??????

I will try to answer these questions in order but a bit brain dead at this time of morning still, so have patience.
Tala, thank you. I am TRYING not to create a war but if push come to shove over my child, it would be on. The "mother" instinct seems to override much else.

Seminole Wind, as Tala stated, I cant get a restraining order until he has really "done something". No, it shouldnt still be happening. And I have been taking action. Unfortunately sometimes the wheels turn slow.

KKatknap, the neighbor and I (and the older lady behind me, plus the post office, bank and business owners) are all alert to watch each others backs now. And yes, the neighbor woman has two dogs. I think her dogs is what alerted her first as well.
Chickie'sMoma, actually you are spot on. The "person of interest" at this point is someone who moved in with a couple. Which would make sense is why his actual name isnt on file and he isnt well known at postal or city office. Around here it doesnt take long for someone to be known so it would almost have to be something like that, unless the person is trying his best NOT to be known. Which, sigh, I guess could be happening too.

drumstick diva, I like the whole passive/aggressive thing.

I have learned a LOT of good ideas through this thread.
Deep down I find myself hoping that this is NOT what it appears to be??? I guess most people would feel that way. In the same breath I have to be realistic.
Thanks for all of the support, it definitely helps me emotionally and people have come up with things I probably wouldnt have thought of myself.(For instance, I didnt know about putting pepper along the area his dog goes. Which would be the walkway up to my dog area. LOL, dont think I will be putting it THERE!)