This just makes me sick!

[redhen]

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I understand what you are saying in this post..
I feel the county should still allow the FF to help these people... even if not paid..
and then the county should step in afterwards with fines.. or whatever...
But at least some peoples houses would not burn down and people/animals die...

 

[love-my-wolves]

Ah, they owned the house. So, they should take a loan on it to afford the insurance? Again, I don't know what their financial situation is, but there are thousands who cannot afford a car, medical insurance, or anything besides basic food. Maybe the house was willed to them, and it and it's contents were all they owned in the world? Who knows, but punishing someone because they cannot afford something so basic as fire protection? What's next, taxing the air we breath? I just hope that every person there did learn a lesson from this, that this county only likes the RICH and everyone else means nothing to them, and hopefully they sell whatever they can to move, fast! Maybe then the fire department would see that donations don't come from empty houses either. Besides, they went to the house, used the gas and equipment to show up, then did nothing, what a waste of the "donated" money, to go and watch a fire show........... and do nothing.


Just my 2 cents of course, I think everyone has differing opinions and I completely respect that, it's what makes America great!

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They owned the house. If they own a car do they need to register it do they need insurance ?

 

[annanicole18]

Here's the thing it was a trailer....those things go up like a match box even if they wanted to put it out everything would have been ruined anyway end of story. Not sure what sort of home the animals were in when it burned but if it was a trailer or a modern house they were doomed. People don't realize how quickly the modern buildings burn making it unsafe. I'm sorry I love my dog but I respect all the people who volunteer in my area enough to want them to go home to their families over saving a dog who is probably already dead from smoke inhalation. Lets be rational here. You as a owner of anything whether it be a car, an animal, or a home are responsible for doing what is necessary to make sure that everything is in order and not a danger to anyone else. The owners should get in trouble for having to put the FF's into that sort of position.

 

[hemet dennis]

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Let me see if I got this right. You want me as a firefighter to risk my life go in to a burning building to save your beloved pets that you wont go in to save. did i get that right?
Then you don't want to pay your firefighting fee until you have a fire. Do you buy fire insurance after the fire? Your county has decided not to include the fee in your property taxes, so that's something that you could change. Do you get electric service if you don't pay for it ? Do you get water if you don't pay for it ?
The fire dept. came out and no one was trapped or injured and to see that it did not spread. They did enough
But i bet there was a line of people to pay the fee the next day

let me get this strait, you rate your services up there with the electric company or an insurance salesman?

Not say someone who risks their life for the greater good like police officers and the military. Or should we go to a system where the police and military only protect people who can pay a fee. I've heard of that. Pay for protection. The mob uses it.

I would rather not live in a country where the only people who deserve protection are the people who use money to buy it.

Do you pay taxes? Then you are paying for protection already.

 

[love-my-wolves]

The FF did nothing. They watched. So the owners should be punished? I don't agree at all. The FF are there to Fight Fires, not be bonfire participants. They should not have showed up at all. It was a slap in the face, and I personally think the county knew this and was just trying to force others to pay the rediculous fee. I agree with others, the fee should not have been seperate, it should have been included in property tax. The county knew by making it a "bill" every year that some couldn't afford it or would forget about it, and in effect expecting this problem. It's a scare tactic, and all it did was force 2 families into homelessness needlessly.

I stand by my thoughts, either don't bother to show up, get rid of the FD completely, or incorporate it into the taxes. It never would have been an issue if one of these had occured.

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[annanicole18]

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They should be punished for having to make the FF subject to such ridicule that is going on right here on this forum. They were just doing their jobs they way their employer told them to following the rules that they were given. As far as the yearly bill versus taxes it can change but people would have to show initiative to get something done and a lot of people especially when you are going to be the minority group as the group that lives outside the city wont bother trying.
They did right by showing up because if the neighbours did the responsible thing and paid their dues the FF's would do what they could to keep it from spreading. Its not a scare tactic because if the people did something about getting it added to their tax bill the fire department would still show up even if they didn't pay their taxes in full. Just all around a crappy circumstances but you can't hate someone for doing their job how they are told to do it. Just remember someone's hero may be a murderer in another's eyes. Its all about perspective and which side of the fence you are on.

 

[KristyHall]

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I understand what you are saying in this post..
I feel the county should still allow the FF to help these people... even if not paid..
and then the county should step in afterwards with fines.. or whatever...
But at least some peoples houses would not burn down and people/animals die...

I agree. I bet it hurt many of those firefighters to watch it burn like that.

 

[KristyHall]

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let me get this strait, you rate your services up there with the electric company or an insurance salesman?

Not say someone who risks their life for the greater good like police officers and the military. Or should we go to a system where the police and military only protect people who can pay a fee. I've heard of that. Pay for protection. The mob uses it.

I would rather not live in a country where the only people who deserve protection are the people who use money to buy it.

Do you pay taxes? Then you are paying for protection already.

And yet the people who don't pay taxes (low income, disability, etc) still get police protection and education for their children.

So no, not the same.

 

[redhen]

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I understand what you are saying in this post..
I feel the county should still allow the FF to help these people... even if not paid..
and then the county should step in afterwards with fines.. or whatever...
But at least some peoples houses would not burn down and people/animals die...

I agree. I bet it hurt many of those firefighters to watch it burn like that.

Yep.. i bet it did..

 

[hemet dennis]

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So if someone was trapped in the home they should not have showed up. they showed up to make sure that people were not hurt and to keep it from spreading. and if there had been pets in there I'm not going in to a Mobile home that has been on fire for 10 minutes or more for your dog cat bird or even your gold fish
The fee has probably never been a part of the tax bill. but tell me the diff. if the tax bill is now $500 and they put the fee in to it the tax bill would now be $575. So why not pay the fee when you pay your tax bill ? Or will they just not pay the tax bill ?