Those who need help in sexing peafowl

[DylansMom]

DylansMom,,higher incubation temps such as 100-100.9 will result in eggs hatching out a day or so sooner,slightly lower temps adds a day or two to hatchtime based on the 99.6 recommeneded.I very seldom have pea eggs hatch on the 28th day,,normally the 26th day they pip and are out,or by the 27th day they are out.

We have found the same to be true, almost all of ours pip on day 26 and hatch on day 27. I was just wondering about Birdrains statement that "Coco" hatched at 24 days. I've never had 1 hatch that early, although my hen hatched ones usually arrive 2-3 days before I am expecting them, but I have a theory on that.

 

[casportpony]

We have found the same to be true, almost all of ours pip on day 26 and hatch on day 27. I was just wondering about Birdrains statement that "Coco" hatched at 24 days. I've never had 1 hatch that early, although my hen hatched ones usually arrive 2-3 days before I am expecting them, but I have a theory on that.

Please do tell, lol.

-Kathy

 

[Birdrain92]

You lose peachicks to stress? Of all things to loose to them, I would not think of that. What do you do to them?

Because Coco's toes were messed up so I would hold her and then straighten her toes out and work with every hour. To me having toes messed up and being touched every hour and have my toes straightened for a half an hour that seems really stressful. She's the only one that hatched out on 24 days. Other peachicks I hatched were 28 days. That was 3 years ago Aurora and Ion. Ion died from predator or just flew away since he was free range. Aurora died because of Ion constantly stepping on her so I separated them then she decided to sleep in her water and ended up killing herself. Reason why she was in her water because Ion sleeps right were Aurora's water is and she wanted to be with him but he kept on stepping on her and running her over. I had a thermometer under Jadea. I just put it in her nest and she sat on it for an hour and then when she got up I went to it and it told me 90 degrees. It also depends on where it's located at and it was probably right next to her foot. My ducks hatch 28 days and my turkeys hatched out in 28 days and my chickens hatched out in 21 days. I don't know why she hatched out so early but she did. All eggs contain Salmonella some contain more than others. But when it's cooked it makes it so there is no salmonella.

 

[frenchblackcopper]

Found the bugger again https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/789610/newly-hatched-peachick-help#post_11383255

"Usually it takes 2 hours for the peachick to dry in the incubator and 3-5 hours til they are fluffy. Usually once the peachick is fluffy they begin to walk and run just leave it in the incubator or in a very warm place above 80 degrees fahrenheit. Wait at least 24 hours after hatch and let it rest it can survive 48 hours without food or water because of what is left in the yolk that is still in their body. Let the peachick rest for a day or two but keep an eye on it."

I must de-gress by the quote " just leave it in the incubator or in a very warm place above 80 degrees fahrenheit" With 80 degrees being the bottom set point as being warm enough,this is still 18-20 degrees lower than what the newborn chicks enviornment has been for the past 26-28 days.A 2oz newly hatched peafowl has little,if anyway to produce it's own body heat.Even if 20 newly peachicks huddled together,they cannot supplement 20 degrees of higher heat amongst them all. Cold causes stress,stress at a day or two of age causes any number of other health related issues that easily can cause death. Besides the mere fact the peachick went from tropical temps to Antarctic temps within hours after birth.
I sincerely hope the person who asked advice in that thread did not lose their peachicks because of too cold of temps.Hatchdays here at Pea Palace is a celebration of life.Thus,Merlot-hatch-a-longs.

 

[Birdrain92]

How I know that Coco was a peahen because of the primary feathers and you agreed with me and you even said primary feathers work when sexing and don't argue with it New 2 peafowl I can find it.

 

[new 2 pfowl]

How I know that Coco was a peahen because of the primary feathers and you agreed with me and you even said primary feathers work when sexing and don't argue with it New 2 peafowl I can find it.

1. No, I did not say that. I have no opinions at all about the color of primary feathers as an indicator of sex at any age, nor have I ever expressed any such opinions. However, someone else here may have agreed with you on this point, and you might have just thought it was me.

That's OK, who can keep track of all the peapeople jumping in here????
2. You did not answer my question; what makes you think your guess was correct? ("Because of the primary feathers" is not really an answer).

 

[DylansMom]

Please do tell, lol.

-Kathy

My hens have always fooled me, they always hatch the chicks 2-3 days before day "28". This past summer, because I was incubating I decided to do some twilight egg collecting for the first time ever. I caught a couple of them sitting on eggs, but the next day they were off the eggs and walking around without a care in the world. This would go on for a day or 2 before they would actually stay sitting. In the past I always based my calculations on their first day sitting, but since they were sitting at night and it was in the mid to high 90's with g-awful humidity(July in Central PA), I think the eggs were developing those first 2-3 days even though those hens still hadn't fully committed. If this has been going on all along it would explain why I am always a couple days behind.

 

[casportpony]

Because Coco's toes were messed up so I would hold her and then straighten her toes out and work with every hour. To me having toes messed up and being touched every hour and have my toes straightened for a half an hour that seems really stressful. She's the only one that hatched out on 24 days. Other peachicks I hatched were 28 days. That was 3 years ago Aurora and Ion. Ion died from predator or just flew away since he was free range. Aurora died because of Ion constantly stepping on her so I separated them then she decided to sleep in her water and ended up killing herself. Reason why she was in her water because Ion sleeps right were Aurora's water is and she wanted to be with him but he kept on stepping on her and running her over. I had a thermometer under Jadea. I just put it in her nest and she sat on it for an hour and then when she got up I went to it and it told me 90 degrees.
Go measure the surface temp of an egg and the temp of hen that's sitting on that egg, it will be much higher than 90 degrees, I can guarantee that.

It also depends on where it's located at and it was probably right next to her foot. My ducks hatch 28 days and my turkeys hatched out in 28 days and my chickens hatched out in 21 days. I don't know why she hatched out so early but she did. All eggs contain Salmonella some contain more than others. But when it's cooked it makes it so there is no salmonella.
Not true... if it were people would be sick all of the time. FYI, I've had necropsies done on several birds and not one has tested positive for salmonella

-Kathy

 

[frenchblackcopper]

Birdrain92 Your post 913 above,A suggestion for you,,get a 1 qt waterer with a quail bottom on it,,this is smaller than the normal size used for chicks to drink out of,,you won't lose peachicks due to drowning in the water supply again,and if you manually straightened the peachicks toes every hour,they should have been taped for 2 days and the curled toes would be straight.I use shipping tape and have showed how I do it here on BYC. It may take 2 people to get the tape layed flat,then get the peachicks toes spread out like normal,then put the foot down on one side of the tape,then lay the tape over the top of the foot and press between the toes so it sticks together-then trim off excess tape. Point being,curled toes cannot be "massaged" hourly to become straight,they must be set in the proper,natural position and kept that way for several days to correct. Suprised your aunt didn't tell you this??

 

[casportpony]

My hens have always fooled me, they always hatch the chicks 2-3 days before day "28". This past summer, because I was incubating I decided to do some twilight egg collecting for the first time ever. I caught a couple of them sitting on eggs, but the next day they were off the eggs and walking around without a care in the world. This would go on for a day or 2 before they would actually stay sitting. In the past I always based my calculations on their first day sitting, but since they were sitting at night and it was in the mid to high 90's with g-awful humidity(July in Central PA), I think the eggs were developing those first 2-3 days even though those hens still hadn't fully committed. If this has been going on all along it would explain why I am always a couple days behind.

That makes sense... I'm not trying to argue, I'm just really curious, what could explain a 26 day hatch from hens that you put eggs under? I've had six chicken hens and one turkey hatch out chicks in 26 days. Most of those eggs were set within a week of being laid, were stored in a cool room and the hens had nesting boxes in my house which stays nice and cool.

-Kathy