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I love whites and i have more whites hens than anything so i think i could get more silvers from some of them since they are out of my pied white eyed hens
 
I must have some.
I love whites and i have more whites hens than anything so i think i could get more silvers from some of them since they are out of my pied white eyed hens

I know the silver came to be by breeding to white eye again and again. To be silver they have to carry 1 white gene 1 pied gene and 2 white eye genes. So if you have all those present in your flock theoretically you should get silvers eventually. I know there is a lot of discussion and some disagreement as to exactly what a silver pied is and how the genes all work together to create that silvered look that you just don't see on the regular pied.
 


I have these two pied three year old cocks that I think might be white eyed, I don't know for sure. I also have two 2013 hatch white eyed hens that I got from a friend that raised them from Brad Legg white eyed pair. Is this enough to work with to get silver? I am pretty sure the Legg pair were both double factor.

 


I have these two pied three year old cocks that I think might be white eyed, I don't know for sure. I also have two 2013 hatch white eyed hens that I got from a friend that raised them from Brad Legg white eyed pair. Is this enough to work with to get silver? I am pretty sure the Legg pair were both double factor.

The bird displaying is carrying 1 copy of white eye, if he was a double all or almost all eyes would be white. This is where the discussion/disagreement comes in, some say it is a clear cut case of having certain genes in a bird and you have a silver others seem to think that you can have these certain genes and still not end up with a silver. They think that the genes have to affect each other almost like a mutation I suppose, in order to get the silvered saddle feathers, and once you have this you breed back to it. It is getting that interaction/mutation to occur in the first place that is hit or miss. You can just end up with a bunch of pieds that do not have the silvered look. When I send you eggs I'll try to make sure you get silver genes, I have 2 silver hens laying and I have a dark pied hen out of silvers who produces silver offspring.
 
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Thank you! And thanks for looking at my pied/we. Both of these guys took a beating in that little cage they were in at the auction, the one not displaying has lost half the length of his train but a lot of the feathers HAD white eyes. The guy displaying in the picture I counted what I thought were seven white eyes but I was not sure if some of the pied coloring would put white splotches on the feathers that would not count as white eye. So you cleared that up for me, thank you.
 
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Thank you! And thanks for looking at my pied/we. Both of these guys took a beating in that little cage they were in at the auction, the one not displaying has lost half the length of his train but a lot of the feathers HAD white eyes. The guy displaying in the picture I counted what I thought were seven white eyes but I was not sure if some of the pied coloring would put white splotches on the feathers that would not count as white eye. So you cleared that up for me, thank you.

Keep in mind silver pieds like all pieds do not breed true. From any pairing of silver pieds you can get whites, dark pied we, or silver pieds. My silver hens are paired with pied males and the dark pied out of silvers is paired with a white male out of silvers. All of these pairings gave silvers last year, except the DP & White, they are a new pair however they should def. give silver considering their genetics. As for the pied putting splotches on feathers its almost like that

occurs at the skin surface so the whole feather ends up white not just the tip or eye. My loud pied has only 1 or 2 white eyed feathers but he has a bunch of tail feathers that are white top to bottom.
 
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This is my silver boy who got his butt kicked. Notice the silvered or almost powdered look on the wing feathers, this is the trait that makes him a silver. It is hard to see, but the gold shell feathers on his back are powdered looking as well.
 

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