Tolbunt Polish

[eeyore75]

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Any babies yet

 

[DancingHen]

Just wanted to show off my new baby!

 

[eeyore75]

yah!!!! in the other thread you said there were 4 others (or maybe total)- are more pipping?

 

[DancingHen]

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I have 4 polish babies total right now, and 3 of them are Tolbunt. I also have 9 more Tolbunt eggs still in the incubator that just went into lockdown today (set 2 different batches). Hopefully some of those will hatch as well.

 

[eeyore75]

Well I ended up with 5 pure Tolbunts (had 6 one failed to thrive), & 5 Tolbunt to Gold Lace first generation chicks!!!

Hopefully I have a good hen to roo ratio!!!

Here are my little Tolbunts (from Jim...... secy of Polish Club)

He did cross orloff in quite awhile ago, but he said there are 2-3 hens that at 1/5 orloff in the room of 50 (lot of hens!!). The blue down one I'll have to watch. Feathers are coming in dark on all of them.

and the little Tolbunt (Green Acres line)/Gold Lace (not sure this line) 1 gen cross kids (from sutillman):

These guys are cute- look like GL babies with a few white spots- 2 have some white on the crest (one is just 2 tiny dots), and most of them have a little white throat spot. Some are darker in color than the GL chicks, more dark brown than reddish on them.


I am looking for more Tolbunt eggs to hatch, both pure & 1st generation Tolbunt to AOC Polish out cross, or or 2nd generation where they are taken back twice to Tolbunts.
When these guys start laying, and I've hatched out a few batches- anyone interested in egg swaps to "broaden" the lines?

Does anyone have pics of these guys at differant ages- just curious on what they look like as they grow!!!

 

[Illia]

Cute chicks

I have some F1 Tolbunt split pullets I'm waiting on laying eggs soon so I can breed them, plus I've got several F1 chicks, but nothing beyond the first generation. I'm VERY picky though honestly - I've sold a lot of chicks because I do indeed have Tolbunt males with small crests and poor bodies, and am working on improving them through my project, but I won't take chicks who will also grow to have tiny crests, a lack of a vaulted skull, or the possibility of a squirreled tail. Those are the big no's for me.

I'm fine with poor color or wrong comb type, but the crests is a big issue for me. I've dealt with too many hatchery Polish with too small of crests. That or Polish with far too thrifty and small of bodies.



A little heads-up - The chicks from Sutillman will all grow to be gold laced, some lighter gold than others, (in case you might have hoped the white on them meant otherwise) The chicks on the top though will be a variety of straight mottled, just a tiny bit of orange marking in the lacing, or possibly too little lacing (the brown and white chick) The one second from the right looks nearly perfect though; The one on the right looks like a silver laced with mottling.

 

[eeyore75]

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Thank you!! You wouldn't happen to have pics of your boys as they grew and feathered out would you?!?!

No I knew the GL/Tolbunt ones would be gold lace in markings- maybe a little mottling in random places if I got lucky.

The 3 blackish & white chicks w/ red by their eyes & reddish cast places on their down look like the tolbunt chick pictures I've seen online. The little reddish one looks like DancingHens's new chick (since she has bid on eggs from the same breeder I got these from- figured that is normal too) The blueish down one I don't think looks right in color- but it doesn't look like our silver lace babies we've hatched at mom's on the blue part.

guess I'll have to watch & wait.

 

[Illia]

One of my Tolbunt boys as chicks - (can't find my photos of the other boy)

They were near perfect in color as chicks. Basically brown with hints of black, just as a gold laced would be, but with white (symbolizing the mottling) The white must be both on the head somewhere and the underside. Too much white on the crest as a chick means too much as an adult though. One of my chicks was born with less white, and honestly, grew up that way, which was a desired trait. Most Tolbunts have way too much white.

I don't have any pre-teen photos of them though, sorry. At that time my camera wasn't working. They were mostly brown with black partial lacing, and had white patches on the breast and a little in the face.

To me, an ideal Tolbunt chick color is with very little black, but not too little that the brown is too light. The brown needs to be a modestly dark color. This signifies a more balanced, well laced patterning.


But color isn't everything.

As always said by many, one must build a barn before they paint it. I know the color is what makes people want Tolbunts, but I'm always for the body too. I know my boys have faults (one moreso than the other, but I'm keeping both) but I'm working to fix those faults. One big one to me, which can be identified at birth, is a lack of a good vaulted skull and/or too small of a crest. Next in line are issues like the tail, the comb, the body, etc. And of course, health.

 

[eeyore75]

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Ok so I pulled the poor things one at a time out of the brooder with their friends (the 10 Polish are in with 2 D'Unccles & 8 Silkie chicks- the Silkies I hatched out for a friend) Mind you they are only a week old today- so color will change alot (our reg color polish change a ton in the first 4-8 weeks on markings/ patterns & color) Looking at the little feathers coming in-The 3 red tinge blackish ones: they have dark red brown mossy pattern around a black center, tipped in white on their little feathers. The redder one has a dark red brown mossy pattern around a brown/black center, tipped in white, and the odd blue one has dark slate blue with creamy mossy pattern & white edge tipping.

Our Gold lace start off with mossy red brown feathers & black feathers, and "turn" into lacing patterns at about 3-4 weeks.

The chick pic on page 1, post #8 is almost what my blackish ones look like- mine are a little darker- but have the red areas on the same places (eye, wing, back, back of head)

I take it you think my blackish ones with feather out more simalar in color to the young birds in these posts : page 3, post #30 & page 6 post #56, page 16 post# 159, page 17, post 162?


The chick on page 7, post #67 looks too be about 2 week old- compared to when our frizzles are at that point of feathered out- I'll see how they are colored to it in a week.

 

[welasharon]

Well it was picture day but the crest washing didn't help so much. It has rained so much here lately that the fronts of their crests are stiff. I swear they have been in the syrup! My pair....Elvis and Dahlia. They are getting so big. They are bigger than my GL now. Their crests look like they are on backwards. I have had to trim the fronts a lot for them to see. Elvis' is the worst.