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I would have to say yes on the penedesencaEmpordanesa yes. Penedesenca no.
If there's a breed I've never ever heard of at shows, never seen someone show off, even of hatchery quality, never see anyone else talk about, but still is APA recognized - It's the Catalana. Seriously where are those?
i have been looking for good sultans and cant find any any wheres :-( (thats bantams by the way) so i had no choice but to order from a hatchery :-(
oh ive also been looking for d'uccle and havent been able to find the colors im looking for...black being one of those colors
I finally got my White Empordanesa. Have only found 3 breeders with these. Probably more but have looked very hard.I would have to say yes on the penedesenca
have you tried to find many Crele's or Blacks lately?