Totally confused about Ivomec and how to use!!

[Germaine_11.20]

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Yes, you did dawg, however I had already used the Ivermectin. Then following other posts and going off of other information I found someone who said to do it every 30 days. That is why I was questioning it. As for the statement of not ever being able to eat the eggs again, I was being facitious.

 

[dawg53]

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Oooooooooooooook. Put a pea sized amount on a small piece of bread? I don't think that I will be able to do that with over 100 chickens.

Any other suggestions?

Hahaha..I didnt know you had that many chickens lol. There are two types of wormers other than wazine that you can use. You can buy Safeguard 10% suspension liquid from TSC (goat wormer) and use 3cc/ml per gallon of water. The 2nd wormer has been mentioned already; is Ivomec injectable...1% injectable for cattle....4cc/ml per gallon of water. Leave it out for 2 days, change it out if necessary. Hope this helps you kuntrygirl. rustyswoman, no problem. I was just wanting to ensure everyone here had the right wormers for the right worms and proper dosages. That's why I prefer valbazen over all the others because it kills most all worms rather than a select few. It can be confusing, but once it's done enough times with the different wormers it becomes second nature. Internal parasites are everywhere in the environment and will take down a chicken quickly and thankfully we have products to control them. Good luck.

 

[Orchid]

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This is why it's necessary to rotate wormers. Have you noticed that it seems everyone here is stuck on wazine or ivermectin? You want to worm every 6 months, your choice. Instead of using wazine and ivermectin next time...use Safeguard instead, or one of the other types of wormers; valbazen, quest plus or zimectrin gold and keep these in rotation as you wish. All of these are off label wormers and have different dosages for chickens. You are correct, we want to prevent worm immunity towards any given wormer, that's why it's important to rotate wormers. BTW, I have used all of these wormers and continue to do so in rotation with no immunity issues. As far as a given time a wormer is not effective...I have no clue, it's just common sense to rotate wormers.

There is another school of thought on this as well (in the horse community) - rotate dewormers once yearly, not every time you deworm. So do a year of ivermectin, a year of moxidectin, etc. (using praziquantel (the "plus" in quest plus and the "gold" in zimectrin gold at least once yearly for tapeworms if necessary).

Either way, yearly or every time you deworm, you're still rotating dewormers. But some studies have shown decreased resistance in parasites when the rotation is done yearly. Just "food" for thought! (mmm, parasites, yum yum

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[tom e]

Great post! Thanks for putting all that together for us. I'll definitely print that and keep it handy..

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[dawg53]

Orchid you are correct, it's up to the individual how they want to rotate wormers and when they want to worm their chickens. As I said before in an earlier post, it depends where you live and what your environment is like where you live. For example: You live in Minnesota, the soil is not condusive for worms for at least half the year(more or less) because it's cold there, very cold. Therefore your chickens would most likely require only worming once a year with whatever wormer you choose. Down here where I live, it's a sweltering swamp, internal parasites dream come true. Therefore, I have worm to my chickens every 3 months otherwise my chickens would be dead. I rotate using various wormers all the time to prevent immunity. I might use the 1st wormer 2 times in a row, but not the 2nd wormer, and rotate like that sometimes. I currently have 7 wormers on hand ready to use at this time.Edited: I keep track on a calendar which wormers I use and count out the withdrawal days as well, same for the 2nd wormers. (I wont have to count out the days for eprinex heheheh.)

 

[Beth G.]

Hi guys, Just wanted to chime in on Orchid's statement. You are not supposed to use the same wormer all year long. You are supposed to rotate between the four everytime you worm. Fenbendazole, Ivermectin, Pyrantel Pamoate, and Moxidectin. If you use the same wormer all year long they build up resistance. That is the need to rotate every time you worm. I only have one horse at the moment and b/c of that I only worm every three months. The only reason I know of this is b/c I worked for a Vet that did a study on it. As for the chicken worming, well that is something I am learning a new thing everyday! The Vet I worked for only took care of Dogs, Cats, and Horses. So, I need to learn more about my poultry. Take Care, Beth

 

[kuntrygirl]

I love the chart. I have printed out and will post on my fridge. Thanks!

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[kuntrygirl]

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I guess I will have research our soil here in South Louisiana. It's so hot here and can is swampy as well, just like you stated., I'm sure we have every parasite, every bug, every worm, every disease, EVERYTHING here. And more bugs being formed and created as we speak due to our soil, temperature and weather conditions. I"m sure a new bug/worm is formed every day having 5 heads, 8 toes, 12 eyes and 3 stomachs. Gotta love Louisiana.

 

[Humhill]

Thanks for the compliments on the chart!! I'm a visual learner. Besides, I got tired of having to search posts everywhere looking for the information. It's far from complete and I'd appreciate any suggestions or additional information!!

We have about 21 horses and have been rotating wormers at each worming for Lord only knows how long. Haven't had any problems with it. Now, new research does pop up all the time. The key is to take what everyone says, look at the pros and cons and make your own decision.

 

[KellyReed]

NO Ivermectin for chickens and they get kinda weird at the FS store when you tell them that you are using it for chickens... but yes, I use the pour-on for cattle... for a banty-size bird I use 2 (eye-dropper) drops, between the shoulder blades/back of neck area, DIRECTLY on the skin (not feathers)... for a standard size bird, use 4-5 drops... I repeat in 10-14 days... I don't eat the eggs for 2 weeks after each application (so 4 weeks total)... but have been told that it can be done (eating eggs).

Don't know about putting it in their water... I would imagine that for a large flock this would be the way to go... but I have no dosage for you... for a small flock, if you don't mind handling everyone, I would use the above direct drop method.

Does this worm them as well or just for mites and lice?