Totally confused about Ivomec and how to use!!

[DaniLovesChickens]

Why is it that they don't make hardly anything actually for chickens? Almost everything has to be given to them "off-label". Which I don't have a problem doing, really. I have Multiple Sclerosis and only 2 meds that I'm on are actually for people with MS. Everything else is given to me "off-label".

My husband said that its because most people just kill their chickens after having them for 2 years so they don't bother treating them for anything.

It's a good thing that he's all talk and no action.

He keeps saying we need to thin the flock but when I mention his favorite chicken or our old blind chicken (named Helen

) he changes his mind.

I think we should band together and demand medication made for our chickens - with clear instructions on how to give it (please God) - with no egg withdrawal time. Chicken owners unite!!!

 

[kuntrygirl]

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I'm with you. I support that !!! Hip Hip Hooray!!!!

Let's do something about this !!!!

 

[MrsChickendad]

According to the poultry guys at MSU, Ivomectin for chickens is off label, mainly because there is not enough chicken "business" to support the kind of testing and research it would entail. Commercial layers aren't used that long, broilers only live a few weeks, and those of us with small backyard flocks don't buy enough stuff to make testing cost effective. So we ask the poultry experts at MSU. Wazine and some of the other wormers used for chickens are only specific for certain worms.

That said, Ivomectin kills external AND internal parasites and is absorbed thru the skin. It is fairly safe and not likely to overdose. As for witholding eggs, Dr. Karcher said that you should box up all the eggs and send them to him, he will eat them! That's what I learned at MSU's "Chicken Out"!

 

[kuntrygirl]

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Thanks for the clarification. That makes perfect sense to me!

 

[kuntrygirl]

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So, I guess this is why they say to use Ivermectin after a round of Wazine being as though Wazine is only for certain worms? I guess the Ivermectin will kill everything that the Wazine didn't? And Ivermectin should be used as a pour on for chickens?

Now I feel smarter than a 5th grader.

I'm not confused any more.

Thank you everyone !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[mmaddie's mom]

By George, I think she's got it!

 

[kuntrygirl]

mmaddie's mom :

By George, I think she's got it!

 

[CityChicker]

Ivomec is really not a terribly efficient wormer for internal parasites. The most comprehensive wormer is Flubendazole, but it is really hard to find in the US. The last time I checked I could only find one supplier with it in the US. If a person wanted to use Ivermectin, I would definitely not use it alone. Even something like Fenbendazole (Safeguard for example) is more comprehensive for internal parasites, while Ivermection is great for external parasites and also helps with some internal parasites. If you suspect a worm problem, I would rotate a couple different wormers.

 

[dawg53]

Wazine only gets rid of large roundworms. Ivermectin pour on and Ivomec eprinex pour on are absorbed quickly through the skin into the bloodstream. Dosages for both pour ons are the same. Both kill roundworms, gapeworms, most lice/mites and many other types of worms, but not tapeworms. There is a clear warning on the ivermectin pour on label stating a 48 day slaughter withdrawal period. However, for egg consumption it's the standard 2 week withdrawal period. There is NO withdrawal for ivomec eprinex pour on. Ivomec injectable- 50ml 1% injectable cattle ivermectin...mix it as follows; 4cc/ml per gallon of water. The mixture is the only water the chickens get for 2 days. For lice/mites, retreat in 14 days w/ same dosage and time. The injectable would be ideal for large flocks. Standard 2 week withdrawal period applies. Withdrawal times are for basically for 2 purposes; To give the wormers time to kill and expel the worms over a period of time and to give a safe margin of time for the wormer itself to be expelled from the chickens system. It prevents possible sensitivity to individuals ingesting a given amount (including minute quantities) of the wormer preventing a possible allergic reaction. It is true that it one of the safest wormers on the market.

 

[dawg53]

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The best wormer on the market is Valbazen.