Trying again...

Unobtanium

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May 13, 2018
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As some of you may have seen, I am absolutely new to chickens. For a time-line of my last month...

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/new.1244149/

and then...

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/worried.1246238/

The result:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/sterilizing-coop.1246852/#post-20014252

To say this was shocking and painful would be right. I got into chicken raising because I thought it would be fun, stress free, and I love animals. Instead I brought home a violent pathogen infected flock that manifested in the birds in less than a week, had to cull them and burn them.

Here I sat, with a nice coop, hotwire, and all the accouterments to raise chickens...and none. At this point I honestly would have walked away from the idea if I were not invested to the tune of around $700. But I am. So I didn't. Instead, I spoke with the state pathologist lab doctors in both Arkansas and Missouri, and they both recommended 1 week for die-off of the MG. 2 weeks would be ABSOLUTELY SURE, and so that's what I waited.

Yesterday morning, my solution arrived. I now have a 100% closed flock on the intake side to prevent ever having a recurrence of this! I didn't want to raise baby chickens, but the only way I knew to ensure that my flock was pure was to do so, it seemed. I purchased 10 Welsummers from here:
http://www.deerrunfarmmd.com/the-cleanest-hatchery-in-the-us

Still not a 100% thing, but definitely better than buying someone's local back-yard flock (as I found out).

Anyway, I also spoke with them on Facebook, and they were kind enough to sex the baby chickens, sending me 10 hens, and 1 rooster (they send 1 extra on orders of 10, they said). They have been amazing to communicate and work with! I highly recommend them if you have needs similar to mine.

At this point,I am looking for advice for Sir PipPip and his harem.

1--Is this environment okay? They are being kept under a 250W red heatlamp. The ambient is 70-74*F in this room. I have observed them sleeping spread between the "cool" and "hot" areas of the enclosure, leading me to think I nailed it, as they aren't all huddling in any one area to get to/away from the heat.

2--How long until they can go outside into the coop/run? (it is predator resistant to a very high level.

3--I am feeding them organic starter/grower and tap water (well water in my case) with the electrolyte packets for baby chickens. It should last a week or two. Is this a good move? The flooring substrate is low dust pine chips.

4--How long until they can escape this tub?

5--At what age are these chics "hardy" and out of the handle-with-caution stage where I shouldn't expect some mystery malady of killing one?

6--What do I need to know that I am not asking?

Thank-you for helping my chickens and I!!!

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After-the-fact questions:

How good are Welsummers for free-range? Are they wary? Can they escape and the roo fight well, etc? I shouldn't trim his spurs, should I? When are they old enough to free range during the day while I sleep? Why is my Maine Coon terrified of Sir PipPip and his harem? For how many years can I expect a minimum of 1 egg per week from a Welsummer hen?
 
You need to put a thermometer in their box. It needs to stay around 100 degrees. At About 3 weeks old they will start feathering out and discover that they can fly. Keep their bedding clean. Once they get about 2 months old you will need to feed them egg pellets. Make sure they do not get coccidiosis. I
Hope your chicks do great!:)
 
If is warm you can take them outside in the coop and run,I have chicks out by day two.
Your feeding all the right things.

You will need to get rid of the tub soon as they will grow wings and begin flying out.Between 5-6 weeks chickens are capable of taking care of themselves,so yes I consider hardy at this age.
Never kept welsummers but am assuming just about any chicken can free range,yes some are slower,I think a welsummer is a good bird for free range.

The rooster is a watch out,not an entire warrior.He will watch for predators and run his hens to safety but it’s absolutely no guarantee whether he will fight a fox,coyote,or an hawk.
If his spurs are causing issues you can trim.Its very rare the spurs are causing issues on the hens back,usually it’s the claws I believe.Only trim spurs if their causing him to trip and stumble.
I start letting free range unsupervised at about three months,maybe four.
 
If is warm you can take them outside in the coop and run,I have chicks out by day two.
Your feeding all the right things.

You will need to get rid of the tub soon as they will grow wings and begin flying out.Between 5-6 weeks chickens are capable of taking care of themselves,so yes I consider hardy at this age.
Never kept welsummers but am assuming just about any chicken can free range,yes some are slower,I think a welsummer is a good bird for free range.

The rooster is a watch out,not an entire warrior.He will watch for predators and run his hens to safety but it’s absolutely no guarantee whether he will fight a fox,coyote,or an hawk.
If his spurs are causing issues you can trim.Its very rare the spurs are causing issues on the hens back,usually it’s the claws I believe.Only trim spurs if their causing him to trip and stumble.
I start letting free range unsupervised at about three months,maybe four.

Thanks! Seems I need them out of the house by age 3wks. I will monitor for escapes. After the first escape, they will be relegated to the coop. It still gets into the 60's in the mornings sometimes. Would this be adverse?

I do wish the rooster were a complete warrior, but I'll settle for him being early intel.
 
I have chicks outside in a open coop.Menaing it’s not enclosed it’s just fencing covering it,and soem tarp,great summer coop.It gets down to the sixtys and a few of my chciks are only 2-3 weeks old,they will be fine.Chicks/Chickens find ways to keep warm and cool.
 
I have chicks outside in a open coop.Menaing it’s not enclosed it’s just fencing covering it,and soem tarp,great summer coop.It gets down to the sixtys and a few of my chciks are only 2-3 weeks old,they will be fine.Chicks/Chickens find ways to keep warm and cool.
Thanks. I'm probably treating them more like California Condors made of Ming vase at this point, but I'm paranoid I guess, given my last issue.
 
Hi! You're going to need a bigger tub if you're planning on keeping them inside until 3 weeks they're going to get big and stinky and start being butts to each other in your present tub. I saw your coop, if 60 is the lowest temp you could possibly move them out sooner. Watch your lamp too, 250 watts is super hot. Chicks have a tendancy to jump towards them and either shatter bulbs or get burned. I use a big 150 watt cfl still not ideal but it isn't hot enough to cook anyone. Good luck with these my freind, you deserve some nice chickens.:)
 
X2 above,don’t keep it too hot and even if they jump at it they will learn to stay off of it,don’t worry too much,as long as they can grow and not have to worry about it touching their heads they should be fine
 
Hi @Unobtanium ,

I hope everything goes well this time.

I believe since I live in Arkansas our climates are probably similar.

I have some chicks that are only a week old. They will be starting supervised visits soon and will likely be in the coop full time within a couple of weeks.

One thing I will make sure to provide is a "wool hen" or a huddle box. So they have a small space that will retain heat.

I haven't transitioned to free range. So I can't speak to how well the Welsummers will do there.

I can tell you I got my Welsummers in June and they didn't start laying until late October/ early November. They quickly went to laying 3 or 4 eggs each week then on to laying almost every day. Once they started laying that is.

My girls are two years old now and going strong.

Any questions feel free to ask.
 

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