Turkey Talk for 2014

[Momhunter]

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Ebay can be SO frustrating! that is the most assinine return policy in my opinion. I have recevied eggs packed like you describe but the difference is the eggs were wrapped in bubble wrap then put in the egg carton. I'm so sorry this happened to you. The seller should send a copy of their NPIP with every sale. Of course they could be lying and don't have NPIP would not be the first time. 
I sell on ebay and sold a gold chain. The buyer decided it was not like the picture and wanted to return it. Fine with me I can resell it send it back I will refund you I said. It was a box chain. When I got it back it was in a ball of knots thrown in the box. It kinked. Its still sitting here knotted. Screw it.  I had to refund them even though they damaged the item before returning.. 

Since the person would not provide the NPIP info to you, you can also report them to the state program. You should have their name from the paypal transaction. Ebay also told me WWW.IC3.GOV is where they suggest reporting internet fraud. Which happens a lot on ebay. Sometimes it just makes you feel better about getting bent over. 

I bet they aren't claiming NPIP now because most likely they are not! 
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Thanks, I'll check out how to report them. I'm not just letting this drop. See I feel better already putting it all down on this thread!

 

[BullChick]

I'm very frustrated and need to vent to those that will under stand!! I ordered some Bourbon Red eggs from EBay. They were advertised as NPIP. The seller shipped them in a grocery store 18 ct large egg carton placed in a box with crumpled newspaper. AND charged a big shipping fee. The eggs bumped against each other in the carton that was moving in the box. So no surprise that 4 eggs were cracked.
The seller refused to mail me his NPIP certification paper, which I asked for multiple times along with a refund for the broken eggs, that were broken due to his pathetic packing. Took the case to eBay as "item not as described" because of him not giving his NPIP info. The seller then told me to send all of the eggs back, 10 of which have been in an incubator for 10 days!! So he wants me to kill the poults and return the eggs. Then to make matters worse eBay sides with him because "the item can not be returned because it is no longer in the same condition as when delivered". Very frustrated. I'm going to contact my regional state poultry inspector next and see who I need to talk to about him selling and shipping across state lines presenting them as NPIP while I assume he isn't. Don't know what else I can do, but I am Very Aggravated.

I forgot to add that the seller now has bourbon red and Narrgan eggs advertised but dropped his price less than half and no longer claims NPIP.

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I really am sorry about this.

 

[JWEBB]

Don't blame you a bit Momhunter. I have had my knickers in knots over stuff like this and it does help to be the squeaky wheel

ESPECIALLY if you are right!

 

[Sydney Acres]

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I had to trim the wings on 4 out of 5 of my hens when they were around 6 months old. When they were younger they could fly like crows, and were exploring the neighborhood. The entire flock (2 toms and 5 hens) was rounded up by my neighbor one day when it was headed down the hill to the lake. He corralled them before they crossed a busy street at the bottom of the hill. A few weeks later I realized they weren't in their yard and went looking for them. I found them heading along an interior fence line towards the street. They were still inside my perimeter fence, so I wasn't in a hurry to catch them. Suddenly they took flight, just for fun, and almost flew into the mail truck as it was driving in front of the property. That was an awkward conversation with my letter carrier! They were young teenagers headed for trouble!! I hated to do it, as they are very vulnerable to predators without the ability to fly, but they were more likely to get injured with full wings outside the fenced property than without flight inside the property fence. I trimmed both wings (for symmetry) on the 4 hens that were the biggest offenders. The fifth hen has very poor eyesight and a few other neurological issues (but is everyone's favorite pet, so she can't be culled because I'd be disowned), so she doesn't like to leave the flock, and needs her wings to make safe landings off roosts. The toms will occasionally fly out of the turkey yard, but when the hens don't follow the boys stay at the fence line of their yard until they figure out how to fly back in, which is safe because it's still inside the property line perimeter fence. As big as the boys are, if they didn't have full wings I think they'd crash to the ground trying to fly off their roosts.

 

[Sydney Acres]

I'm very frustrated and need to vent to those that will under stand!! I ordered some Bourbon Red eggs from EBay. They were advertised as NPIP. The seller shipped them in a grocery store 18 ct large egg carton placed in a box with crumpled newspaper. AND charged a big shipping fee. The eggs bumped against each other in the carton that was moving in the box. So no surprise that 4 eggs were cracked.
The seller refused to mail me his NPIP certification paper, which I asked for multiple times along with a refund for the broken eggs, that were broken due to his pathetic packing. Took the case to eBay as "item not as described" because of him not giving his NPIP info. The seller then told me to send all of the eggs back, 10 of which have been in an incubator for 10 days!! So he wants me to kill the poults and return the eggs. Then to make matters worse eBay sides with him because "the item can not be returned because it is no longer in the same condition as when delivered". Very frustrated. I'm going to contact my regional state poultry inspector next and see who I need to talk to about him selling and shipping across state lines presenting them as NPIP while I assume he isn't. Don't know what else I can do, but I am Very Aggravated.

I'm sorry that happened to you, but not surprised. I guess I'm just too jaded. I see sooooo many people buy animals or eggs over the internet, and they are rarely in the health or quality advertised. I'm not saying that there aren't honest people with great quality stock that sell online, but it's a huge buyer beware situation. As frustrating as it is, think of it as a lesson learned, very cheaply. I know of someone that recently paid $1800 (plus $500 shipping fee) for a puppy of a very rare, non-AKC breed from a "breeder" that they found online. The puppy is obviously a mixed breed animal with lots of health problems from a puppy mill, with no health guarantee and "all sales are final" written on the only piece of paper that came with the puppy. Another person I met a few years ago paid $7500 (no, that's not a misprint) for an F2 Savannah kitten with a heart murmur, and a health guarantee that required a vet's health exam within 4 hours (again, not a misprint) of delivery. The kitten was flown cross country with an arrival time of 12:45 a.m. She had the kitten at her vet when they opened at 8 a.m. the same day. Since the kitten was not examined within the time required, the health guarantee was not honored. Ignoring the fact that no reputable Savannah breeder would sell a kitten to an inexperienced cat owner, and that nothing lower than an F3 generation should ever be outside an experienced breeders hands (normally only the F4s and F5s are sold as pets), this was clearly a setup by a disreputable breeder who trapped a naïve buyer with a fancy website. Unfortunately, the buyer wasn't willing to pursue interstate prosecution, could not afford medical treatment for the heart condition, and the kitten died before it reached adulthood.

So as frustrating as your situation is, think of the money you spent as the tuition for a class about online fraud, and be glad it was so (relatively) inexpensive. If you decide to buy eggs online in the future and want them from NPIP stock, you should request that a copy of the NPIP certification be sent before you buy, and then verify its authenticity with the state office (because a lot of the certificates will be fakes). (Wow, I am jaded!) You can also request pictures of the parent stock prior to purchase. While you can't guarantee that the pictures are actually of the birds that the seller owns, if you look at the pictures and if you don't like what you see than you can avoid stock that doesn't meet your standards. The nice thing about e-bay is that there are previous buyers always giving feedback. If someone has been selling eggs for a long time and the vast majority of feedback says things like "well packed" or "excellent hatch rate" or "the quality of birds were outstanding," then you've probably got a great supplier. That's a lot more information, from actual buyers, then you get on other web sites.

 

[chickadoodles]

I only buy from ppl with a 98% positive feed back or above on ebay.

 

[NewToFarming]

I'm very frustrated and need to vent to those that will under stand!! I ordered some Bourbon Red eggs from EBay. They were advertised as NPIP. The seller shipped them in a grocery store 18 ct large egg carton placed in a box with crumpled newspaper. AND charged a big shipping fee. The eggs bumped against each other in the carton that was moving in the box. So no surprise that 4 eggs were cracked.
The seller refused to mail me his NPIP certification paper, which I asked for multiple times along with a refund for the broken eggs, that were broken due to his pathetic packing. Took the case to eBay as "item not as described" because of him not giving his NPIP info. The seller then told me to send all of the eggs back, 10 of which have been in an incubator for 10 days!! So he wants me to kill the poults and return the eggs. Then to make matters worse eBay sides with him because "the item can not be returned because it is no longer in the same condition as when delivered". Very frustrated. I'm going to contact my regional state poultry inspector next and see who I need to talk to about him selling and shipping across state lines presenting them as NPIP while I assume he isn't. Don't know what else I can do, but I am Very Aggravated.

I am so sorry this happened. I have really stopped buying anything off of ebay anymore. Here is a link to a site where you can search for the seller by state to see if he truly is NPIP certified.

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_health/animal_dis_spec/poultry/participants.shtml Just click on the state and everyone is listed for that state. Hope this helps!!!

 

[NewToFarming]

I had to trim the wings on 4 out of 5 of my hens when they were around 6 months old. When they were younger they could fly like crows, and were exploring the neighborhood. The entire flock (2 toms and 5 hens) was rounded up by my neighbor one day when it was headed down the hill to the lake. He corralled them before they crossed a busy street at the bottom of the hill. A few weeks later I realized they weren't in their yard and went looking for them. I found them heading along an interior fence line towards the street. They were still inside my perimeter fence, so I wasn't in a hurry to catch them. Suddenly they took flight, just for fun, and almost flew into the mail truck as it was driving in front of the property. That was an awkward conversation with my letter carrier! They were young teenagers headed for trouble!! I hated to do it, as they are very vulnerable to predators without the ability to fly, but they were more likely to get injured with full wings outside the fenced property than without flight inside the property fence. I trimmed both wings (for symmetry) on the 4 hens that were the biggest offenders. The fifth hen has very poor eyesight and a few other neurological issues (but is everyone's favorite pet, so she can't be culled because I'd be disowned), so she doesn't like to leave the flock, and needs her wings to make safe landings off roosts. The toms will occasionally fly out of the turkey yard, but when the hens don't follow the boys stay at the fence line of their yard until they figure out how to fly back in, which is safe because it's still inside the property line perimeter fence. As big as the boys are, if they didn't have full wings I think they'd crash to the ground trying to fly off their roosts.

Yeah, I can see where having them clipped is a good thing to do especially in your case with those girls going wild! LOL I have noticed in the time I have had them which isn't very long that it seems the girls are the trouble makers and wander. They sure made my Tom tired trying to keep up with them. When he does go up on the perch, I do have to lift him down off of it in the morning. He waits for me to lift him off so he knows he cannot fly.

Is there anything special I need to know about broody turkeys? I am very familiar with broody chickens but didn't know if there is anything special I needed to know about the turkeys.

 

[SilkieSensation]

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This list isn't updated for Ohio, nor is it accurate. It has our farm listed under 2 different addresses, neither of which is right, and under my maiden name at a very old address & now under my husband's name at another old address. You can't rely on these either. They are only as accurate as the states bother to make them.

 

[Momhunter]

I only buy from ppl with a 98% positive feed back or above on ebay.  

This seller had a 100% positive feedback.
When I gave him a negative feedback eBay removed it! If they can remove what ever feedback they want it is not an honest judgement of the seller.