Turkey with returning sour crop?

[azygous]

Yes. Very good decision.

 

[danielley101215]

Greetings danielley101215,

Good call.

God Bless and good health to your turkey.

Hello!!!!!

Thanks so much!! It means so much right now honestly, glad I’m making the right first step in this process by at least ruling out worms and then going from there and will definitely tell you guys what her results are and we can go from there whether or not it’s worms, and we will all work to get her better

 

[danielley101215]

Yes. Very good decision.

Same as I posted above, thank you so so much I’m glad I’m making the right choice rn by testing for this and ruling it out and then we can all go from there and figure out what’s next based on the results we want her better

 

[danielley101215]

My sweet baby girl.

 

[danielley101215]

So Ebony’s results came in from the lab site this morning, they did a float test on her feces and they found no parasitic eggs in her feces! Next step?

 

[danielley101215]

Ebony today. So as I said I got the results on the test done, her crop is still filled up days later. It’s still pretty big and it’s quite squishy and filled up with fluid pretty much can be squished with my hand. She’s still very active and vocal and eating and drinking she still is laying last egg I got was two days ago, and she is still pooping so the food is still moving slowly through.
@azygous @Texas Kiki

 

[Hen Pen Jem]

Greetings danielley101215,

You say the crop is still filled with fluid. Do you smell any stinky gas when you feel the crop?

Does she regurgitate any of the fluid from her beak, on her own, or when you feel the crop?

It is good she still eating and drinking, and pooping OK.

Did you try the crop bra? That crop should really be supported. Her crop muscle is being stretched. She may regain some tone to it with support and if you can get the yeast growth under control.

Here is a simple pattern.

Treatments:
Diet:
She should have no more access to grass. Feed moistened crumble/mash feed. You can add some probiotic to the feed. No chunky, or seedy foods. It's good to keep her eating, as long as she is pooping normally.

Medication:
An anti-fungal is needed.

• You can use , Miconazole Nitrate (over the counter med, can be purchased at any Pharmacy). You would administer some to her twice a day to kill yeast growing in her crop.

• Another home remedy that many poultry keepers use, is Acidified Copper Sulfate. This substance can only be used in glass or plastic containers. It reacts with metal containers, so they must never be used. It goes in the water so the bird can drink it. Purchase at a farm/feed store.

• Nystatin is a good anti-fungal med, (needs prescription). And, there are other anti-fungal/yeast meds, but they require prescription by a vet.

These are my thoughts on your turkeys crop issue. I hope I have been helpful.

God Bless

 

[danielley101215]

Greetings danielley101215,

You say the crop is still filled with fluid. Do you smell any stinky gas when you feel the crop?

Does she regurgitate any of the fluid from her beak, on her own, or when you feel the crop?

It is good she still eating and drinking, and pooping OK.

Did you try the crop bra? That crop should really be supported. Her crop muscle is being stretched. She may regain some tone to it with support and if you can get the yeast growth under control.

Here is a simple pattern.
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Treatments:
Diet:
She should have no more access to grass. Feed moistened crumble/mash feed. You can add some probiotic to the feed. No chunky, or seedy foods. It's good to keep her eating, as long as she is pooping normally.

Medication:
An anti-fungal is needed.

• You can use , Miconazole Nitrate (over the counter med, can be purchased at any Pharmacy). You would administer some to her twice a day to kill yeast growing in her crop.

• Another home remedy that many poultry keepers use, is Acidified Copper Sulfate. This substance can only be used in glass or plastic containers. It reacts with metal containers, so they must never be used. It goes in the water so the bird can drink it. Purchase at a farm/feed store.

• Nystatin is a good anti-fungal med, (needs prescription). And, there are other anti-fungal/yeast meds, but they require prescription by a vet.

These are my thoughts on your turkeys crop issue. I hope I have been helpful.

God Bless

Hello!! @Hen Pen Jem
So I haven’t smelled any stinky gas honestly, this whole time as I go out and feel her each day and check her I try and smell for that and I’m not noticing any foul smell that I can tell at least.

She does start to regurgitate the fluid when she’s down pecking at things for a long amount of time I’ll see her spill out some fluid from the beak and when I feel her I hear a gurgling sound in her crop at times.

Yes she is still eating and drinking and going to the bathroom sometimes her stool is watery but sometimes I get really good solid ones that look healthy but she’s still going either way. And laying every couple days.

She is not eating any grass, I haven’t let her out into the yard since she got backed up again because I don’t need her trying to eat our grass right now. She has her bowl of oyster shell and a container of grit, and she has her water that I had electrolytes/ probiotics to every couple of days. She is ONLY eating all flock crumble feed. That’s all she has no seeds. Just her crumbles that she eats lots of, and occasionally a couple little grapes.

Does she for sure need to be treated orally? We have Medastatin here the one for little birds like pigeons and stuff but have never medicated with it. It is the powder.

As for the crop bra, we are trying to get that done, my mom is very concerned about using vet wrap on her for the straps as she is incredibly big and we don’t want it too tight or to come off, but I’m not sure. I just want something that will support her and function to keep her crop draining and working, I leave this Thursday out of state for a bit and I need to get a bra on her by then if I can, so she will have support while I’m away.

 

[Hen Pen Jem]

Medistatin is a powdered Nystatin. Hopefully, you will have enough for a turkey. I found a thread here on BYC about Medistatin dosage for chickens. It's by Casportpony, a member well versed in med dosages. If you use it, follow through a course of 5-7 days. You may even need it longer.

www.backyardchickens.com/threads/medistatin-nystatin-dose.1211995/

As for the crop bra, your mom is right. I wouldn't use vet wrap either, not for a turkey.
Perhaps you have an old Tee shirt, men's size. Then, you can measure the turkey and use the pattern I sent you, to fashion one for her. That bit of fabric should be just enough support. But, if her crop still hangs too much, you can just cut a large square of thick felt or something like that, and use it as extra padding. just tuck in between the crop and bra. Hey, just like a padded bra for us gals! But, I don't think that may be necessary. You don't want it so tight, that she is regurgitating. You'll have to adjust it over the following days. She won't like it, and may walk backwards and carry on. When I put one on my hen, she threw herself on the ground and refused to walk, or stand.

These crop issues can be difficult. Some heal within days, others take weeks. Sometimes you have to try different healing strategies, too. Crop issues can also return, in some birds. It can be a lifelong struggle for the bird. And sadly, some birds are unable to recover. Crop stasis is when the crop just stops working. The reason is usually unknown, unless a necropsy is done. In the case of crop stasis, it is usually a secondary problem, resulting from some other ongoing health issue in the bird.

But, be positive and do your best, with your care she'll recover.


God Bless

 

[danielley101215]

I have 125 grams total. An unused 100gram bottle and an unused 25 gram bottle. I’m just awful with conversions and doses on birds and wouldn’t know how to do this on my own, like how much powder to mix with how much water and how much the dose would be for her weight. I’d be giving it to her in mL in a syringe down the throat so I’d need help with what to do for that..

Yes of course! I know what you mean. Just like cats when you put shirts or sweaters on them they act like they can’t do anything. I’m wondering if it would be helpful to just have her wear the bra for life after this? But not sure what do you think. Or just temporarily?

How would I make it with the T-shirt? I definitely have many old men’s shirts that could be used. Just trying to visualize how I could make a shirt into a crop bra? I’ll definitely do it just need help getting one made for her like what to use and how to make it to get this girls crop supported