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Right, I don't imagine the problem is the size of the dog but rather the legth and density of the coat, especially around the neck. I have put a barker collar on Gracie (Sheltie) before, and have my groomer shave a path around her neck for for it. Works well until the hair coat starts to grow back. Sammy has a sparse coat so I think IF will work well on him. And I believe they do the installation, so no worries on that account.
 
I was so sad to read your story, and know whats its like to come home and find a neighbours dog had got into our garden and killed one of my chickens, I found her under our caravan where she probably thought she was safe, the other two had completely disappeared so I didnt know if they were dead, eaten or whatever but the next morning one of them had found her way back to the coop in the evening and a neighbour found the other wandering the back road in the dark so kept her overnight. The next day I bought a roll of wire and made sure there were no gaps in the fence a dog could get into our garden again. If you had chickens just for eggs then its cheaper to buy them in the supermarket my chickens are pets first the eggs are just a bonus now This website has helped me out so many times when my girls have been ill or for when you just want to share the good times too.
 
sourland said:
I too recommend Invisible Fence.



Definitely a consideration. For us it worked on our goldens, but Newfies have an even thicker coat. Perhaps they have collars adapted for long haired dogs ? Worth checking out.
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I remember that one breed that figures out the invisible fence was the German Shorthaired pointer - they run through the fence so quickly that they hear the beep and already over the shock zone.
 
My GSHP, very motivated, independent, and smart, did stay in the IF. It took a pretty 'hot' collar option, but he believed it!
One of our Dalmations would run along the edge, and every 15 ft. or so, we'd hear a 'yip!' as he hit it and retreated. He used up batteries fast, but didn't go through it. The bunnies learned exactly how far he could go, it was funny!
Mary
 
Folly's place said:
My GSHP, very motivated, independent, and smart, did stay in the IF. It took a pretty 'hot' collar option, but he believed it!
One of our Dalmations would run along the edge, and every 15 ft. or so, we'd hear a 'yip!' as he hit it and retreated. He used up batteries fast, but didn't go through it. The bunnies learned exactly how far he could go, it was funny!
Mary
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I had a lab once that would walk straight into the shock zone, get zapped, and her reaction was to just drop - and she got repeatedly shocked. We had to pull her out of the area. Most labs are bright... this one not so much.
 
NHMountainMan said:
I remember that one breed that figures out the invisible fence was the German Shorthaired pointer - they run through the fence so quickly that they hear the beep and already over the shock zone.
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I would put a dog that does this on a training collar and leash, and yank him back at the beep line a few times. He needs to learn the correct response is to retreat into the safety of the yard, not run faster. It might take several days of repetition, and not to be out unattended off leash for a while, but he should get it if he's not allowed to make any more "end runs."
 
NHMountainMan said:
I remember that one breed that figures out the invisible fence was the German Shorthaired pointer - they run through the fence so quickly that they hear the beep and already over the shock zone.
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SIL had an extremely strong willed GSHP. He would periodically approach the invisible fence line testing the collar. Once the battery/beeping diminished he would bust right through, but he was a Houdini in all things. Our last golden breached the fence twice. Both times the Princess was away for the night, and I think Dani went looking for her. I turned off the fence, and both times she returned early in the AM.
 

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