two chicks from the pet shop

[mrbryce]

Hello,

these are my first chickens, they look like those featured in the guidelines thread X)

i bought them last week from a pet shop, still i am wondering about gender and breed ?

yellow one is 45g black one is 55g
they ve just started plucking down feathers i m guessing they re in their second week ?




more pictures coming.

also wondering if something's wrong with them :/
their head is diving when they sleep and and everytime i hear crackling sounds from the beak or nostrils. occasionally they have bubbles in the nostrils. then i encourage them to drink. the black one was drooling the other day. it has some slight yellow dirt on one side of the beak and nostril. the vet said it was fine cos she s very energetic and eating well ?

what do you think ?

 

[Lady of McCamley]

thank you lady for all the links.

i just found out the black one has a large air sac on the neck, its one sided and swollen --;

it cannot be more than 3 days old. i ve only just noticed it because its starting to show transparent skin



can bronchitis lead to air sacs ?

from what i read it fits to either Mycoplasma gallisepticum or Infectious Laryngotracheitis

i ll call another vet tomorrow. having a hard time refraining myself from bursting the sac out lol. that chick must be saved !!

I'd have to look at the symptom chart too as I've not experienced either one of those diseases personally thus far (thank the Good Lord). If the bird is not experiencing difficulty in breathing, I would not rush to burst it until I figure out what I was dealing with first.

Keep it calm; away from the other bird so the other bird doesn't pick at it; and keep giving it fluids with the vitamin/electrolyte and food for it to eat.

Another useful site that also gives good photos of what the diseases look like in actual affected birds:
http://www.poultryclub.org/poultry/health-and-diseases/

According to this site (http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/t0756e/t0756e08.htm ) Infectious Bronchitis can lead to swollen air sacs, (air sacculitis) and there is a cervical air sac. I'm not familiar enough with chicken anatomy to know exactly where that is other than the neck so I looked for one on the internet and posted below... if your bird had IB, it may well have a leaking air sac into the neck.

This website recommends simple wait and see and then careful lancing if there is indeed a subcutaneous emphysema...air sac leaking air into surrounding tissues);
http://www.yourchickens.co.uk/care-and-advice/breath_of_life_1_1367886 I've never done this, so I would ask someone experienced if you decide to go this route without vet guidance.

I would recommend posting on the BYC disease forum as there are a lot of very helpful and much more knowledgeable people than I.

Good Luck (Bonne Chance)
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Lady of McCamley[/FONT]

 

[chickensnewtome]

Could you get some pics of their heads a little closer and their backs? You might try giving them some antibiotics if you are truly worried. My little chicks did the head bobbing and runny noses, I did not give them anything and they got over it. Good luck and

 

[Lady of McCamley]

I agree that better photos are needed for breed identity.

More importantly, runny noses and cackling sounds is not normal in chicks. Neither is pasty stuff on the nostrils. They are sick. There are a lot of diseases it could be from viral to bacterial. Some will pass in time, but others can be quite deadly. Antibiotics won't help if it is viral (other than helping with secondary infections).

I'm not sure what you mean by head bobbing as chicks bob their head down to sleep, and they sleep in little snatches...but if they are jerky in their head movement that is not normal either.

Until you figure it out, I would recommend putting them on a "chick saver" electrolyte/vitamin mixture you put in their water. That can help boost their immune system.

I would post on the Disease forum for help.

Also, you can find information about diseases here:
http://www.localharvest.org/blog/26992/entry/common_chicken_diseases_and_symptoms

and here:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/chicken-injuries-diseases-how-to-diagnose-treat-your-chickens

HTH
Lady of McCamley

 

[jak2002003]

They look a bit like Japanese Bantam X some other breed....but its difficult to tell as they are so young.

From the photos they look very healthy......clear big eyes, nice clean feathers, look alert and lively!!

But bubbles from their nostrils and raspy breathing sounds is not good.

They may have a respiratory illness.

Make sure you keep them warm, dry and free from dust.

If they are still lively, eating and growing don't worry too much.. they will probably get over it themselves.

But if they get sick looking, or start breathing with their beaks open, or any other symptoms you should take them to the vet for antibiotics.

For now, adding some bird vitamins to the drinking water, and make sure they have the proper food.

 

[chickensnewtome]

The light one looks Japanese Bantam, The dark one looks maybe Black Cochin x Japanese Bantam, Looks like Hens to me but I am new at this so dont take that to the bank. You definitely do not need to use Antibiotics in all cases, Like the one after me said, Electrolytes in the water and some good feed should see them thru it unless they get really bad sick. Then that choice is yours to make.

 

[roostersandhens]

I think this one: is a golden Laced Wyandotte I could be wrong though

 

[chickensnewtome]

I am saying both hens, and Japanese for the light one and cochin cross for the dark one....Im probably wrong

 

[dandrews1971]

reddish wattles at that age?
You likely have a little boy.

 

[shay20]

Does the black one have a little crest ? Kinda looks like it in the pic (like a tiny mohawk on the head) also wht type of combs