Two questions for gun control people

[bakerjw]

I know people who shoot 1,000 rounds every time that they go to the range and none of the are committing acts of aggression. Heck I have that much right now.

 

[dainerra]

A partial solution to the problem suggested by my son-in-law, a gun owner and enthusiast. You can't control; the amount and type of guns already in circulation. You can however severely restrict the sale of ammo, and also the type of available. In a civilised society it should be impossible to buy 6,000 rounds of ammo. There can be no justification for storing that amount. That is an act of agression

how is it an act of aggression? if my husband and I get together with some friends to do some target practice, we can go through a few thousand rounds in an afternoon. Just a few friends hanging out, having some burgers on the grill and plinking targets in the backyard...nothing aggressive about it.

Plus, sometimes you can get a good deal if you buy in bulk. It's not like it goes bad......

ETA: for example, when we went to visit family last April, all the grandkids were learning how to shoot. There were several different guns, but added all together we probably went through 5000+ rounds of ammo

 

[thaiturkey]

A partial solution to the problem suggested by my son-in-law, a gun owner and enthusiast. You can't control; the amount and type of guns already in circulation. You can however severely restrict the sale of ammo, and also the type of available. In a civilised society it should be impossible to buy 6,000 rounds of ammo. There can be no justification for storing that amount. That is an act of agression

That seems to be a sensible suggestion. I'm not sure that I would use the word 'aggression' in this context but buying and storing 6,000 rounds at home is an act that should raise suspicions as to the motive. We buy enough suitable ammunition from a gun shop to deal with an intrusion or two at home. For practice purposes, we buy ammunition at the gun club and leave there what we haven't used on the day. That's safe practice and we don't need large quantities at home.

 

[Demosthine]

That seems to be a sensible suggestion. I'm not sure that I would use the word 'aggression' in this context but buying and storing 6,000 rounds at home is an act that should raise suspicions as to the motive. We buy enough suitable ammunition from a gun shop to deal with an intrusion or two at home. For practice purposes, we buy ammunition at the gun club and leave there what we haven't used on the day. That's safe practice and we don't need large quantities at home.

I'm running out of time here at work to answer the original poster's questions, but I'll definitely get to that when I get home. But in response to ThaiTurkey, I sincerely hope that, from reading your statement, you do not leave the spare ammunition sitting on the shooting bench at the range for some stray person to grab. I would tend to say that is a very irresponsible practice, not a safe practice. You have no idea who is picking up those rounds and what their plans are. If that was not the intent of your statement, please clarify it.

Maintaining 6,000 rounds at home is not necessarily an act of aggression and shouldn't necessarily raise suspicions. As a responsible citizen who carries my handgun every day, everywhere I go, it is my responsibility to ensure I have the appropriate skills to safely carry and fire my weapons. As such, it is vitally important to maintain a regular routine of irregular practice sessions. After our last Administration was elected in 2008, there was a mad rush for everything firearms related, especially ammunition, because Mr. Obama has always been adamantly opposed to firearms. This shortage has lasted four years and the shelves are still not properly stocked to levels that they were pre-2008. With the doubling of ammunition prices, this "stockpile" of 6,000 rounds could essential mean the difference between maintaining my practice abilities or risking shooting an innocent due to my degradation of skill. Over a total of four years, 6,000 rounds of ammunition would equate to a mere 125 rounds expended per month. (12 months x 4 years = 48 months || 6,000 rounds / 48 months = 125 rounds per month). That is the absolute minimum amount of rounds I go through per weapon for a day at the range.

 

[bakerjw]

I can tell that you've never purchased ammunition at a firing range here in the states. Those that sell it require you to buy what you shoot from them and the markup is extreme. No thanks to that. I buy everything from a wholesaler in town and you do get better pricing when you buy in bulk. When you save a few cents per round going from 1,000 to 5,000, it adds up. And with current prices I won't trust anyone to store my ammunition securely.

Personally I don't care if people raise suspicions about my motives. We live as much of a self sustaining lifestyle as possible and have large quantities of long term foodstuffs. Pretty much we are preppers. If the economy tanks, and the future looks to not be all rainbows and roses, I expect some of my family to come stay with us. If the economy does go belly up the people will go hungry. Hungry people are motivated people and I'll do what is required to protect my family, our security as well as provide them the means to help defend ourselves.

 

[thaiturkey]

I'm running out of time here at work to answer the original poster's questions, but I'll definitely get to that when I get home. But in response to ThaiTurkey, I sincerely hope that, from reading your statement, you do not leave the spare ammunition sitting on the shooting bench at the range for some stray person to grab. I would tend to say that is a very irresponsible practice, not a safe practice. You have no idea who is picking up those rounds and what their plans are. If that was not the intent of your statement, please clarify it.

Certainly not!

We mark the box with our names and the number of bullets left and hand it to the manager to be locked in his safe for next time. I hope that clears up the misapprehension.

We practice amongst Royal Thai Army and Royal Thai Police Officers. The club is on Army territory and Army run. The management is very tight, I'm pleased to say.

I'm glad that you share my view of gun safety. The subject underpins everything I have written here about responsible gun ownership.

 

[conny63malies]

A partial solution to the problem suggested by my son-in-law, a gun owner and enthusiast. You can't control; the amount and type of guns already in circulation. You can however severely restrict the sale of ammo, and also the type of available. In a civilised society it should be impossible to buy 6,000 rounds of ammo. There can be no justification for storing that amount. That is an act of agression

My husband is AD in the US Army . WE have weapons at home as well as ammo. There are about 5-6000 rounds in the safe. We buy it when its on sale. Its not that much, heck a box of .22LRs has 555 rounds and that is just a small box. 6000 rounds will fit in a large shoe box. If you have several diff. rifles you end up buying quite a bit of ammo. Here on post we have to hunt certain animals with a certain ammo, while off post you can use diff ammo. THen for the shot guns you have diff. sizes of shot sizes and shell length.... its easy o build up a small collection.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

I can go threw 1000 rounds a week when there is no shortage but right now store shelves are empty an I only have about 500 rounds an can not find more so practice is on hold. I think the 10K number is the normal number floated around as how much each home should have put back. 300 rounds per man use to be the minimum required by federal law... May still be...

 

[SillyChicken]

The OP asked why the focus on the type of gun... and they are totally correct in saying the particular features of an AR don't make a difference in the gun. Not so much as how it influences the perception of the people who are basically ignorant or want to be, when it comes to guns..

They are focusing the attention on one type of gun to ban, because it's a distraction... banning this gun will make it easier to pass additional requirements in the law. The true goal of the proposed law...... is to force citizens to register all their guns. (take note newfoundland this is how) Right now the government has no idea who has what. They cannot disarm the US population until they know. Disarmament is going to be the next step. All UN leaders (not countries) are demanding it. Don't be so in denial about what the true, eventual goal of this countries government is. It's happened everywhere else.. The whole point of the second amendment is to protect ourselves from tyranny. Either from a fellow human or our government.

Do you all really want to lose the right to choose to protect yourselves? They cannot even enforce one basic human law - no murder - can't get more fundamental than that, and yet they fail to stop it.

I also have an issue with the psychotropic drugs that all the people who have been doing mass shootings have been on...There is something wrong with this system. Banning one or all guns won't stop it. Too often we don't look directly at the problem, we're too darn busy looking for excuses..... video games, guns....not the problem because it takes people to use them.. we are the common denominator. Our expectations for how people are tolerated to behave needs to change..... need an example - watch Pawn Stars! Holy Sense of Entitlement batman!

I am an avid shooter and can support that it's very easy to blow through several thousand rounds of ammo. It doesn't take long... Besides a law abiding citizen having 100k rounds or just one.......shouldn't make a difference. If one follows the 2nd amendment, a well regulated milita means well armed, well supplied and well trained... you can't be well regulated without a lot of ammo.

I commend the OP for asking a good, observant question.

 

[Demosthine]

Certainly not!

We mark the box with our names and the number of bullets left and hand it to the manager to be locked in his safe for next time. I hope that clears up the misapprehension.

We practice amongst Royal Thai Army and Royal Thai Police Officers. The club is on Army territory and Army run. The management is very tight, I'm pleased to say.

I'm glad that you share my view of gun safety. The subject underpins everything I have written here about responsible gun ownership.

Ok, well, that is a much better explanation! Here in my area of the United States, that is not even an option. You can either buy the ammunition at an extreme premium from the range store or you can bring your own. You are not allowed to leave any behind, however. Now, on to type my essay for the original poster's questions...