tylan 50 - how long to inject?

[Wyorp Rock]

LOL Cute picture! She looks like an armful

Do you have vet care available?
How long have you had her?
Did she come with the swollen feet?

You also mention her smelling sour - is this her breath, mucous/discharge or just a general unpleasant smell about her?

In your photo I do see a small scab that looks like bumblefoot, but since both feet are swollen and puffy and her poop is solid white chalky, I would be more inclined to think at least some of the swelling is from Gout. This of course, is just a guess - I'm not a vet.

What do you feed? She may benefit from extra poultry vitamins that contain Vitamin A. Keep her treats to no more than 5-10% of daily intake. Antibiotics may help with infection (the feet do look a little infected). See that she is drinking really well.

Check her crop to make sure it's emptying overnight (check when she roosts at night, then first thing in the morning before she eats/drinks).

www.farad.org/publications/digests/122015EggResidue.pdf
www.farad.org/publications/miscellaneous/LayingHensEggResidues.pdf

 

[Eggcessive]

Wow, those are some wopping feet! Your kids are strong to hold your hen. I would agree with Wyorp Rock to look at articular gout as a possible cause of the swelling. Mycoplasma synovitis is also a possibility. Mycoplasma (MS) is a respiratory disease that also affects the joints, and can cause swollen joints in feet, ankles, and knees. Sometimes there can be a thick yellow exudate from those joint sheaths. It is contagious and can make carriers of the flock.

Articular gout can be caused by many things, such as fungal infections, an inherited trait, too high of protein or calcium in the diet, or too much sodium in the diet.

A bacterial infection in the joint from staphylococcus, E.coli, and other bacteria from bumblefoot can cause swelling, but it may start with local swelling in one foot.

There are others on BYC who have experienced MS, such as Two Crows who knows much more about it. Gout would be hard to reverse or treat, especially when so many things can cause it. You could try warm Epsom salts to the feet, followed by thoroughing drying daily, to see if that helps.

I would be very cautious in using penicillin or amoxicillin due to your allergies. Other antibiotics, such as Cipro or Baytril might be more powerful, but eating eggs later could be a problem. It would be good to try and get testing done, just to find out if it could be mycoplasma. You may want to contact your vet, your state vet or poultry lab, or local extension agent to find out how to go about that. There are different strains of mycoplasma (MS, MG, and others, and chickens can have more than one strain.) If you decide to put her down, you could then easily get testing through a necropsy by the state vet. Not sure that would be a good thing with your kids' pet chickens though. Sorry you are going through this.

 

[Julie evans]

Wow, those are some wopping feet! Your kids are strong to hold your hen. I would agree with Wyorp Rock to look at articular gout as a possible cause of the swelling. Mycoplasma synovitis is also a possibility. Mycoplasma (MS) is a respiratory disease that also affects the joints, and can cause swollen joints in feet, ankles, and knees. Sometimes there can be a thick yellow exudate from those joint sheaths. It is contagious and can make carriers of the flock.

Articular gout can be caused by many things, such as fungal infections, an inherited trait, too high of protein or calcium in the diet, or too much sodium in the diet.

A bacterial infection in the joint from staphylococcus, E.coli, and other bacteria from bumblefoot can cause swelling, but it may start with local swelling in one foot.

There are others on BYC who have experienced MS, such as Two Crows who knows much more about it. Gout would be hard to reverse or treat, especially when so many things can cause it. You could try warm Epsom salts to the feet, followed by thoroughing drying daily, to see if that helps.

I would be very cautious in using penicillin or amoxicillin due to your allergies. Other antibiotics, such as Cipro or Baytril might be more powerful, but eating eggs later could be a problem. It would be good to try and get testing done, just to find out if it could be mycoplasma. You may want to contact your vet, your state vet or poultry lab, or local extension agent to find out how to go about that. There are different strains of mycoplasma (MS, MG, and others, and chickens can have more than one strain.) If you decide to put her down, you could then easily get testing through a necropsy by the state vet. Not sure that would be a good thing with your kids' pet chickens though. Sorry you are going through this.

I have had her for a month yes she came with her feet swollen I checked the other four hens daily and they are all normal I showed my vet the pictures and he prescribed me oxytetcycling one bag for a 1/4 Gallon for 8 days I pulled that on Oct 14 th it seemed to work for a day or two after then the smell came back and the feet swelled even more she's eating and drinking but just lays there to do it I am contemplating on putting her down

 

[Julie evans]

First off she has been separated from the others from day one and they all get Purina layena with oyster strong with scratch feed plus they all so get the Trinity of diatomaceous earth and apple cider vinegar and garlic should I attempt to do the bumble foot surgery and see if that will improve her condition the vets here are really expensive in Idaho lol my kiddo is still learning how to hold a chicken and sweetie is the best one out of the bunch to learn with

 

[Wyorp Rock]

For me I would be hesitant to cut into the foot. You may want to try soaking in epsom salts, dry the foot well, apply Clear Iodine, Prid drawing salve or Vetericyn to the foot, then wrap it. Keep her on clean dry bedding. Re-soak the next couple of days and re-apply your choice of ointment, re-wrap. Then see if the scab will naturally release with some tweezers, hopefully if there is a kernel or core it will come out with the scab or be softened enough where you can squeeze it out.
Just my thoughts.

Can you tell where the smell is coming from (what part of her body) - does she have any scabs or old wounds that may be infected (under the wings, around the vent, etc.)?

 

[Julie evans]

Her poop looks normal now she had white chalky poop for a week now its back to norm idk I am going to try bumble foot surgery to see if that will help

 

[Julie evans]

For me I would be hesitant to cut into the foot. You may want to try soaking in epsom salts, dry the foot well, apply Clear Iodine, Prid drawing salve or Vetericyn to the foot, then wrap it. Keep her on clean dry bedding. Re-soak the next couple of days and re-apply your choice of ointment, re-wrap. Then see if the scab will naturally release with some tweezers, hopefully if there is a kernel or core it will come out with the scab or be softened enough where you can squeeze it out.
Just my thoughts.

Can you tell where the smell is coming from (what part of her body) - does she have any scabs or old wounds that may be infected (under the wings, around the vent, etc.)?

The smell is definitely coming from the vent I did check there's no open wounds or old scabs I did try soaking her feet in Epsom salts and have used vetericyn for a month her stomach feels normal no edema no squishy belly and she did produce two eggs total and then stopped after that

 

[Wyorp Rock]

The smell is definitely coming from the vent I did check there's no open wounds or old scabs I did try soaking her feet in Epsom salts and have used vetericyn for a month her stomach feels normal no edema no squishy belly and she did produce two eggs total and then stopped after that

The only things I can think of that would make an odor come from the vent would be Vent Gleet and infection. @Eggcessive may have a better idea. Vent Gleet (sometimes called Thrush) is a fungal infection that has a yeasty smell - you would most likely see a white discharge covering the vent and the skin below or her rear would be wet/dirty from the discharge. Infection could be caused by a number of things, so it would be hard to take a guess. You may want to offer her some probiotics/yogurt to see if that makes a difference.

 

[Julie evans]

Oxytet worked for a week I went and pick up some vitamins to try but I will pick up some pro biotic and some yogurt for her

 

[casportpony]

This is what one vet says:

the dose for Tylan 50 works out to 0.2cc per pound. So 0.8-1cc for an average sized bird. This needs to be given every 6-8 hours. Most people are WAY underdosing with Tylan.