Tylan and penicillin for bubbles in the eyes

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by ironsfamilyfarm, Jan 8, 2015.

  1. Eggcessive

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    It means that certain bacteria become resistant over time to certain antibiotics. You know like MRSA--methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus--staph aureus used to always be treated with methicillin, but it is now resistant.
     
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    How big are they? If they were mine I would use Baytril, but Baytril is banned for use in food animals, so best to look into that
    -Kathy
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    They range in age between 6 to months old.
     
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    Yes it always makes me nervous to, they usually don't give very good advice. I knew I would get better advice on here from people who know from their own experience. This is a great resource for anyone who has chickens.
     
  4. casportpony

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    Because Tylan can cause *severe* injection site damage I won't use it again. The one time I gave one shot, the bird developed a nasty necrotic spot in her breast muscle that never did heal right. Not sure what the proper dose is, but I do think it's probably more than people think.

    The Tylan website says that the daily dose for the powder for chickens is 50mg per pound, but I don't know how that translates to the injectable. Probably best to consult a vet on that.

    -Kathy
     
  5. Eggcessive

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    I used Tylan 50 injectable only once on a hen 3 days in a row, and that hen is fine. The Tylan literature does say that it can be irritating, and I really would not ever recommend using the Tylan 200 as an injection on chickens, since it is 4 times as concentrated, but some people do use it. Someone on BYC once gave a Tylan injection, and their chicken died immediately--that may have been from an improper injection, or some unusual reaction or severe stress. Since I don't see a sick chicken that often, I haven't used Baytril, but it is a good drug. Bacteria can build up a resistance to antibiotics after time, so I would use Tylan or the other drugs first (oxytetracycline, erythromycin) before using Baytril for every infection. Of course, that is just my opinion, plus the fact that I don't have Baytril.
     
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  7. casportpony

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    Read this and tell me what antibiotic one should choose. This was a peachick that had swollen sinuses and bubble in the eye.



    -Kathy
     
  8. casportpony

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    Here is a picture of the pdf:

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    He started with Tylan, then tried oxytetracycline or tetracycline, but in the end he used Baytril. Not positive, but I think the delay in using Baytril cost him the lives of one or two chicks.

    -Kathy
     
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  9. casportpony

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    Here is another. This was from a duckling of mine with a yolk sac infection, so not a respiratory infection, but still you can see how it can be tricky to pick an antibiotic that will treat both bacteria found:


    Escherichia coli
    EXTRA-LABEL USE ANTIMICROBIAL AGENTS -- NOT approved for use in this animal species-- Antibiotic Reading Interpretation
    Ceftiofur 28mm sensitive
    Erythromycin 8mm resistant
    Gentamicin 24mm sensitive
    Neomycin 21mm sensitive
    Penicillin 6mm resistant
    Spectinomycin 21mm sensitive
    Tetracycline 22mm sensitive
    Sulfonamides 22mm sensitive
    Enrofloxacin 35mm sensitive
    TMP/Sulfa 29mm sensitive


    Pseudomonas aeruginosa
    EXTRA-LABEL USE ANTIMICROBIAL AGENTS -- NOT approved for use in this animal species-- Antibiotic Reading Interpretation
    Ceftiofur 13mm resistant
    Erythromycin 6mm resistant
    Gentamicin 19mm sensitive
    Neomycin 16mm intermediate
    Penicillin 6mm resistant
    Spectinomycin 12mm intermediate
    Tetracycline 12mm resistant
    Sulfonamides 6mm resistant
    Enrofloxacin 21mm sensitive
    TMP/Sulfa 6mm resistant

    -Kathy

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    Escherichia coli
    EXTRA-LABEL USE ANTIMICROBIAL AGENTS -- NOT approved for use in this animal species--
    Antibiotic Reading Interpretation
    Ceftiofur 24mm sensitive
    Erythromycin 6mm resistant
    Gentamicin 21mm sensitive
    Neomycin 12mm resistant
    Penicillin 6mm resistant
    Spectinomycin 18mm sensitive
    Tetracycline 6mm resistant
    Sulfonamides 6mm resistant
    TMP/Sulfa 6mm resistant


    Escherichia coli
    U.S. - FDA APPROVED ANTIMICROBIAL AGENTS -- Approved for use in this animal species --
    Antibiotic Reading Interpretation
    Ceftiofur 24mm sensitive
    Erythromycin 8mm resistant
    Neomycin 18mm sensitive
    Penicillin 6mm resistant
    Spectinomycin 19mm sensitive
    Tetracycline 6mm resistant
    Sulfonamides 6mm resistant
    Streptomycin 16mm sensitive
    Antibiotic Reading Interpretation

    EXTRA-LABEL USE ANTIMICROBIAL AGENTS -- NOT approved for use in this animal species--
    Antibiotic Reading Interpretation
    Gentamicin 19mm sensitive
     
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  10. casportpony

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    Take a look at the culture and sensitivity reports I posted and you'll see that all show that penicillin won't be effective. Makes my head spin trying to figure out what the best antibiotic to have and use is. [​IMG]

    -Kathy
     

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