U.S. Flag RANT!!! and some info...

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That happened just a couple of months before we left CA. And you know when one idiot does something others follow. I remember seeing the Mexico flag above the US flag on several peoples cars. Then there was the one where some guy sewed the US flag to the Mexico flag so that one side was US and the other Mexico and thought it was "cool". It really irks me that people want so badly to live in America and at the same time completely disrespect it.

Perhaps this individual felt he was honoring the U.S. by creating a dual purpose flag that represented his love for homeland AND his appreciation for his new country. I think that is the opposite perspective.

Another thought is that "some" if not "many" people who are immigrant refugees do not necessarily want to live in the U.S. part of America; yet, they cannot go home, because their home no longer exists. All they can do is sign up for a country to take them in, and often the U.S. is not their number one choice as countries like New Zealand, Australia, Sweden, Germany, etc. are more favorable to them. All they can do is go where they're accepted, often to avoid being murdered by people whom they at one time had backyard barbecues with, and reminisce about the old days before some Nazi Eugenics Psycho regime or, perhaps, another form of flaming nationalism took over and began raping their daughters and pillaging generations worth of hard work. So, they often succumb to resentment which may be tempered by alcoholism, depression, etc. All they want is for things to be the way they were so they can go back, go home, and be well.

Living free from the terror of genocide and war causes some, in a sense of false security, to not take time to imagine the perspectives of refuges or immigrants. Besides, there are many analogies which can compare behaviors, right down to personal behaviors and preferences, that make everyone guilty of offending another or being ignorant of laws, perhaps thinking that he or she is expressing pride.

So many deep considerations when, really, the world would probably be a better place without any "Us-and-Them" theories or attitudes. I always remind myself that I am a species and I often feel ashamed when I think of the violence my species commits in the defense of symbolism of any kind. Like a possessive dog who has been given a dozen toys, humans, humans, humans...

There are so many what ifs. If the laws are followed to a T, consider the person, let's say this person is Mexican, who is kidnapped and dumped, left for dead, high in the Rockies, who uses the U.S. flag for shelter, warmth, to bandage a wound, or tears off a red stripe to signal for help. This person could be anyone, not only Mexican: a mother with a child, a descendant of someone who stepped off the Mayflower, a member of the Kalispell tribe caught in a snowstorm during a hunt, a person who is caught between the decision to transport their beloved therapy dog down a mountain by using the flag as a gurney, or leaving the dog to die due to following the strict idea that to do so is to disrespect the flag, punishable by imprisonment or death, or the fear that the citizens of the town at the bottom of the hill will throw stones and bury their body near a ski resort.

Interesting.
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No matter what his intentions were he did not honor the flag, he did however disrespect it.

The rest doesn't really have anything to do with the topic of respecting the US flag.
 
OK. I've been told that a million times...about going off topic. Sorry if it bothers you. I have an autistic brain and I quite frequently encounter issues when entering conversations in person or online. I apologize if anyone is offended. I've faced the fact that I can either a) keep quite and say nothing which would defeat the purpose of interaction, or b) try to enjoy myself, getting what I find pleasurable out of socializing. I swagger back and forth between a) and b), depending upon how coherent I am or how much social energy I can muster. Today, I am functioning enough to choose b).
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I don't mind off topic so much. I just got really lost as to what most of it had to do with the conversation. Are you autistic or on the spectrum? or just a chatty type.

As for the flag discussion I have just seen alot of disrespect towards it and sometimes I gotta have a little rant.
 
I have autistic disorder. I enjoy philosophizing and don't see the relevance of staying on topic. Maybe it just doesn't always work for me, because I see so many possibilities and my brain makes a lot of connections some people may find odd. I know it irritates people who are neurotypical, but it can be difficult for me when people (in person) go on and on with small talk or a topic that doesn't interest me at all, like fashion. I just try to be tolerant of others and hope they can do the same.

I can see, in one way, how people are disrespecting the flag, because if they choose to hang it on a pole outside their business, they should properly care for it. But sometimes people do things out of ignorance, and that is a huge issue overall, that covers so many things that my mind is dancing with examples having nothing to do with the flag.
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It is the soldier, not the reporter,
who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the soldier, not the poet,
who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the soldier, not the campus organizer,
who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.

It is the soldier, not the lawyer,
who has given us the right to a fair trial.

It is the soldier,
who salutes the flag,
who serves under the flag,
and whose coffin is draped by the flag,
who allows the protester to burn the flag.
 
thanks for posting that "writerofwords"...about the actual ceremony i wondered what was the protocol for it i knew it was a ceremony but i was not sure what it entailed.

(i didnt want to quote the whole thing cause it was really long)
 
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Sounds more like Aspergers which is on the spectrum. While you weren't on the topic your communication is great.

Oh and today believe it or not I called the school again because the boy with the flag had it drapped around him like a Superman cape. Yes boys can be silly, but they have to learn that the raising and lowering of the flag is a ceremony and not playtime.
 
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Sounds more like Aspergers which is on the spectrum. While you weren't on the topic your communication is great.

Oh and today believe it or not I called the school again because the boy with the flag had it drapped around him like a Superman cape. Yes boys can be silly, but they have to learn that the raising and lowering of the flag is a ceremony and not playtime.

OK what I dont understand is why the children were not supervised while doing this?..I remember it was a great honor in school if you were chosen that week to assist the principal in raising and lowering the flag each morning and after school ended
 
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I appreciate the sentiment however...not everyone from North America is American. I am Canadian.. and not an Canadian American. Being American refers to someone who is a citizen of the USA (to which I am not) but thats another topic

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I know a lot of people use the term "American" to refer to U.S. citizens, but America is a continent and anyone who resides on the American continent is an American. For example, Brazilians are American and all Native Americans are not from ancestral tribes indigenous to the U.S. Usually it is obvious that the person who says "I am American" actually means they are a United States citizen, but that is a bit ethnocentric due to the fact that Americans may be Mexican or Peruvian, or Canadian. I think it is this exclusion of other American countries that lead to the terms like Mexican-American meaning a person of Mexican descent who is a U.S. citizen, etc.
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I didn't know this, but apparently any artist is advised to contact an attorney before depicting the U.S. flag in any sculpture, painting, or any other form of visual art, including quilting.

I woould say american exclusively refers to citizensof the United States of America and Candadians are North American the same way peruvians and Equatorians are South American ????
 
Yeah, some people could say Asperger's. But the diagnosis is Autistic Disorder. Since it is a developmental disability, present at birth, it will never go away, but I have been able to "fake it" and appear neurotypical, for the most part. I get really tired of doing that, though. My thinking is still the same: neurologically autistic.

Have you heard of Tito Mukhopadhyay? He was diagnosed as "severely" autistic due to no speech and other challenges, but his mother was a spectacular person and through her invention of the "Rapid Prompting Method" she found he was aware of everything, he just could not articulate speech. He has written several books, most while he was still a child. Even people who would be considered "severely" affected by autism may be able to write very well and/or have great imaginations or internal thought processes. There is an entire school of research and study surrounding the discrepancy between verbal blah, blah and actual intelligence, but I will refrain. I will refrain.
 
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