U.S. Flag RANT!!! and some info...
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That happened just a couple of months before we left CA. And you know when one idiot does something others follow. I remember seeing the Mexico flag above the US flag on several peoples cars. Then there was the one where some guy sewed the US flag to the Mexico flag so that one side was US and the other Mexico and thought it was "cool". It really irks me that people want so badly to live in America and at the same time completely disrespect it.
amen, i am an imigrant. I would never plaster my flag allover the place and force my language onto people. If there is a german festival fine , its fun but in real life i am a mom raising american kids.
That happened just a couple of months before we left CA. And you know when one idiot does something others follow. I remember seeing the Mexico flag above the US flag on several peoples cars. Then there was the one where some guy sewed the US flag to the Mexico flag so that one side was US and the other Mexico and thought it was "cool". It really irks me that people want so badly to live in America and at the same time completely disrespect it.
amen, i am an imigrant. I would never plaster my flag allover the place and force my language onto people. If there is a german festival fine , its fun but in real life i am a mom raising american kids.
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That happened just a couple of months before we left CA. And you know when one idiot does something others follow. I remember seeing the Mexico flag above the US flag on several peoples cars. Then there was the one where some guy sewed the US flag to the Mexico flag so that one side was US and the other Mexico and thought it was "cool". It really irks me that people want so badly to live in America and at the same time completely disrespect it.
Perhaps this individual felt he was honoring the U.S. by creating a dual purpose flag that represented his love for homeland AND his appreciation for his new country. I think that is the opposite perspective.
Another thought is that "some" if not "many" people who are immigrant refugees do not necessarily want to live in the U.S. part of America; yet, they cannot go home, because their home no longer exists. All they can do is sign up for a country to take them in, and often the U.S. is not their number one choice as countries like New Zealand, Australia, Sweden, Germany, etc. are more favorable to them. All they can do is go where they're accepted, often to avoid being murdered by people whom they at one time had backyard barbecues with, and reminisce about the old days before some Nazi Eugenics Psycho regime or, perhaps, another form of flaming nationalism took over and began raping their daughters and pillaging generations worth of hard work. So, they often succumb to resentment which may be tempered by alcoholism, depression, etc. All they want is for things to be the way they were so they can go back, go home, and be well.
Living free from the terror of genocide and war causes some, in a sense of false security, to not take time to imagine the perspectives of refuges or immigrants. Besides, there are many analogies which can compare behaviors, right down to personal behaviors and preferences, that make everyone guilty of offending another or being ignorant of laws, perhaps thinking that he or she is expressing pride.
So many deep considerations when, really, the world would probably be a better place without any "Us-and-Them" theories or attitudes. I always remind myself that I am a species and I often feel ashamed when I think of the violence my species commits in the defense of symbolism of any kind. Like a possessive dog who has been given a dozen toys, humans, humans, humans...
There are so many what ifs. If the laws are followed to a T, consider the person, let's say this person is Mexican, who is kidnapped and dumped, left for dead, high in the Rockies, who uses the U.S. flag for shelter, warmth, to bandage a wound, or tears off a red stripe to signal for help. This person could be anyone, not only Mexican: a mother with a child, a descendant of someone who stepped off the Mayflower, a member of the Kalispell tribe caught in a snowstorm during a hunt, a person who is caught between the decision to transport their beloved therapy dog down a mountain by using the flag as a gurney, or leaving the dog to die due to following the strict idea that to do so is to disrespect the flag, punishable by imprisonment or death, or the fear that the citizens of the town at the bottom of the hill will throw stones and bury their body near a ski resort.
Interesting.
That happened just a couple of months before we left CA. And you know when one idiot does something others follow. I remember seeing the Mexico flag above the US flag on several peoples cars. Then there was the one where some guy sewed the US flag to the Mexico flag so that one side was US and the other Mexico and thought it was "cool". It really irks me that people want so badly to live in America and at the same time completely disrespect it.
Perhaps this individual felt he was honoring the U.S. by creating a dual purpose flag that represented his love for homeland AND his appreciation for his new country. I think that is the opposite perspective.
Another thought is that "some" if not "many" people who are immigrant refugees do not necessarily want to live in the U.S. part of America; yet, they cannot go home, because their home no longer exists. All they can do is sign up for a country to take them in, and often the U.S. is not their number one choice as countries like New Zealand, Australia, Sweden, Germany, etc. are more favorable to them. All they can do is go where they're accepted, often to avoid being murdered by people whom they at one time had backyard barbecues with, and reminisce about the old days before some Nazi Eugenics Psycho regime or, perhaps, another form of flaming nationalism took over and began raping their daughters and pillaging generations worth of hard work. So, they often succumb to resentment which may be tempered by alcoholism, depression, etc. All they want is for things to be the way they were so they can go back, go home, and be well.
Living free from the terror of genocide and war causes some, in a sense of false security, to not take time to imagine the perspectives of refuges or immigrants. Besides, there are many analogies which can compare behaviors, right down to personal behaviors and preferences, that make everyone guilty of offending another or being ignorant of laws, perhaps thinking that he or she is expressing pride.
So many deep considerations when, really, the world would probably be a better place without any "Us-and-Them" theories or attitudes. I always remind myself that I am a species and I often feel ashamed when I think of the violence my species commits in the defense of symbolism of any kind. Like a possessive dog who has been given a dozen toys, humans, humans, humans...
There are so many what ifs. If the laws are followed to a T, consider the person, let's say this person is Mexican, who is kidnapped and dumped, left for dead, high in the Rockies, who uses the U.S. flag for shelter, warmth, to bandage a wound, or tears off a red stripe to signal for help. This person could be anyone, not only Mexican: a mother with a child, a descendant of someone who stepped off the Mayflower, a member of the Kalispell tribe caught in a snowstorm during a hunt, a person who is caught between the decision to transport their beloved therapy dog down a mountain by using the flag as a gurney, or leaving the dog to die due to following the strict idea that to do so is to disrespect the flag, punishable by imprisonment or death, or the fear that the citizens of the town at the bottom of the hill will throw stones and bury their body near a ski resort.
Interesting.
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You ARE an American. America is a continent. You are a Canadian American.
You ARE an American. America is a continent. You are a Canadian American.
For some of the holidays listed, the Boy Scouts come to our work and hang a large flag over our doors... It's fun to watch them put it up and take it down (they do it early in the morning before we open so I can watch) because they do it so properly. And some are very young.
On the other hand there is a flag, which was on a pole coming from the front porch of a house, fell down in a wind storm... DAYS ago. It's just there, on the ground, on a main road were everyone can see. It's not the best part of town otherwise maybe I'd go get it. But it could be a crack house and I'm a wimp.
On the other hand there is a flag, which was on a pole coming from the front porch of a house, fell down in a wind storm... DAYS ago. It's just there, on the ground, on a main road were everyone can see. It's not the best part of town otherwise maybe I'd go get it. But it could be a crack house and I'm a wimp.
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That happened just a couple of months before we left CA. And you know when one idiot does something others follow. I remember seeing the Mexico flag above the US flag on several peoples cars. Then there was the one where some guy sewed the US flag to the Mexico flag so that one side was US and the other Mexico and thought it was "cool". It really irks me that people want so badly to live in America and at the same time completely disrespect it.
amen, i am an imigrant. I would never plaster my flag allover the place and force my language onto people. If there is a german festival fine , its fun but in real life i am a mom raising american kids.
Interestingly, the official language of the U.S. is not English. The U.S. does not have an official language. Originally, and probably still today, there were over three hundred languages spoken and recognized in the U.S. This is part of what's been forgotten, too.
It's interesting what you've said: "I would never plaster my flag all over the place and force my language onto other people."
As a U.S. American, descendant of immigrants, I have to think little to realize the irony in this statement. LOL.
That happened just a couple of months before we left CA. And you know when one idiot does something others follow. I remember seeing the Mexico flag above the US flag on several peoples cars. Then there was the one where some guy sewed the US flag to the Mexico flag so that one side was US and the other Mexico and thought it was "cool". It really irks me that people want so badly to live in America and at the same time completely disrespect it.
amen, i am an imigrant. I would never plaster my flag allover the place and force my language onto people. If there is a german festival fine , its fun but in real life i am a mom raising american kids.
Interestingly, the official language of the U.S. is not English. The U.S. does not have an official language. Originally, and probably still today, there were over three hundred languages spoken and recognized in the U.S. This is part of what's been forgotten, too.
It's interesting what you've said: "I would never plaster my flag all over the place and force my language onto other people."
As a U.S. American, descendant of immigrants, I have to think little to realize the irony in this statement. LOL.
I remember the 02 olympics when Jim Shea Jr painted his skeleton board depicting a waving flag. It was requested that he not use that board as not to insult anyone. He refused.
The flag has always stood for pride, strength and glory. Three things that are not instilled in some like it used to be.
The flag has always stood for pride, strength and glory. Three things that are not instilled in some like it used to be.
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amen, i am an imigrant. I would never plaster my flag allover the place and force my language onto people. If there is a german festival fine , its fun but in real life i am a mom raising american kids.
Interestingly, the official language of the U.S. is not English. The U.S. does not have an official language. Originally, and probably still today, there were over three hundred languages spoken and recognized in the U.S. This is part of what's been forgotten, too.
It's interesting what you've said: "I would never plaster my flag all over the place and force my language onto other people."
As a U.S. American, descendant of immigrants, I have to think little to realize the irony in this statement. LOL.
I lived in Flrida in the middle of acres on acres of citrus. I t is not possible to go anywhere without hearing spanish or see a flag that is mexican , puerto rican...... it just irks me tha people can live here 15+ years without leaning english.
THis said back to the flag.
I think all of the US should learn on how to prob. fly,fold and care for the flag. I think they could make an extra hour or two in history to do so.
amen, i am an imigrant. I would never plaster my flag allover the place and force my language onto people. If there is a german festival fine , its fun but in real life i am a mom raising american kids.
Interestingly, the official language of the U.S. is not English. The U.S. does not have an official language. Originally, and probably still today, there were over three hundred languages spoken and recognized in the U.S. This is part of what's been forgotten, too.
It's interesting what you've said: "I would never plaster my flag all over the place and force my language onto other people."
As a U.S. American, descendant of immigrants, I have to think little to realize the irony in this statement. LOL.
I lived in Flrida in the middle of acres on acres of citrus. I t is not possible to go anywhere without hearing spanish or see a flag that is mexican , puerto rican...... it just irks me tha people can live here 15+ years without leaning english.
THis said back to the flag.
I think all of the US should learn on how to prob. fly,fold and care for the flag. I think they could make an extra hour or two in history to do so.
So does this mean all my Americana decor in my home is taboo? I am a proud Marine Wife and I think it shows my love for my country.
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Americana is a american folk art and a great part of american history. It shows how proud people are of their country.
Americana is a american folk art and a great part of american history. It shows how proud people are of their country.
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