Unemployment almost 10% nationally

[deerman]

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We're not at war with India. We're not even at war with Pakistan. Saying Obama shouldn't go to India right now makes as much since as saying he shouldn't go to England.

Sometimes the President needs to travel. To meet with foreign leaders, on goodwill missions...these are things that help our country even if they aren't 'by the book' required of the president.

I stand corrected on his need not to go, this trip they are also going to Koren and etc. Am still concern about him going to area of the world ,where we are at war (what ever you want to call it) no not India , but not that far away, same area ...Pakistan is where some of the Talban are holding up.

Stand corrected on the cost of the trip too.......

 

[I have WHAT in my yard?]

UM, gang?? We need to go to India, hat in hand and ask them to keep buying our debt.

We need to beg them not to continue to develop the ability to corner the market on oil. As China is doing with oil and rare earth metals.

Remember those days when other countries came to see us hat in hand?? Those days are over. Our president needs to go to them...... It is a gesture of respect. And we have to do it.





Don't blame him for this one it is too large and much too long time in coming.......

 

[ivan3]

Q9 wrote: ... but energy is just one part of a huge economy

Having lived through the embargo in `73 (heck, just read the gas price threads from this board from a couple of summers ago when a barrel hit $140.00), I can say that it is the only market that we expose ourselves to that could shut us down tomorrow. ~700 billion out the door to other nations every year. Absolutely an issue of National Security (do you really think Osama would have bothered dropping the WTC if we had kissed-off the House of Saud decades ago?). I'll forego any mention of anthropogenic warming hypotheses.

Sen. Lamar Alexander proposed building 100 new light water reactors a few years ago, Obama has paid lip service (little money) to this absolutely `green' source of baseload power production. We could skip the LWR's and jump straight to thorium burners (as it is the `plan' is to build a `demonstrator' in 2025 - has been back-`burnered' by `tools' of both the `oily's' and the `greenies'). Heck, I'd be happy if there was any National Energy Policy at all (run cars on Natural gas for all I care - we have plenty). Think about it: Chavez gets a bit twitchy, oil market speculators play his `mood' and a week later we're paying a couple more cents a gallon at the pump? That we allow ourselves to remain hostages to this sort of idiocy (more accurately: slaves to a hydraulic despotism) makes me wonder.

If the government woke up with any sense, tomorrow morning, and declared that the U.S. would be energy independent in a decade, and would be spending whatever it takes to ACTUALLY repair/rebuild/expand our infrastructure (all investments of OUR money that OUR grandkids would actually PROFIT from) the rest of the world would sit up and take notice (we only remain nominally on top because they think we are. They stop thinking it, we take the fall). We could immediately get folks back to work in a big way, be able to reduce military spending across the board and increase the confidence in our paper. I'd couple that with single payer nonprofit health system (save 400 billion a year, start biting into the `unfunded mandate' that is medicare and level the playing field with our competitors that have been using their systems to their advantage for some time now - don't particularly cotton to this plan but don't see any other way to knock off half-a-trill. a year and to stick it to our trading partners).

The above would go a long way to prove that we are capable of functioning as more than a dumping ground for cheap gee gaws while twirling about in the lint in our collective political navel.

Old and in the way but not so cynical I'll quit my inveterate letter writing (always send Return Receipt Requested - I keep the little green cards in a box with my honorable discharge).

ed:sp​

 

[Organics North]

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Having lived through the embargo in `73 (heck, just read the gas price threads from this board from a couple of summers ago when a barrel hit $140.00), I can say that it is the only market that we expose ourselves to that could shut us down tomorrow. ~700 billion out the door to other nations every year. Absolutely an issue of National Security (do you really think Osama would have bothered dropping the WTC if we had kissed-off the House of Saud decades ago?). I'll forego any mention of anthropogenic warming hypotheses.

Sen. Lamar Alexander proposed building 100 new light water reactors a few years ago, Obama has paid lip service (little money) to this absolutely `green' source of baseload power production. We could skip the LWR's and jump straight to thorium burners (as it is the `plan' is to build a `demonstrator' in 2025 - has been back-`burnered' by `tools' of both the `oily's' and the `greenies'). Heck, I'd be happy if there was any National Energy Policy at all (run cars on Natural gas for all I care - we have plenty). Think about it: Chavez gets a bit twitchy, oil market speculators play his `mood' and a week later we're paying a couple more cents a gallon at the pump? That we allow ourselves to remain hostages to this sort of idiocy (more accurately: slaves to a hydraulic despostism) makes me wonder.

If the government woke up with any sense, tomorrow morning, and declared that the U.S. would be energy independent in a decade, and would be spending whatever it takes to ACTUALLY repair/rebuild/expand our infrastructure (all investments of OUR money that OUR grandkids would actually PROFIT from) the rest of the world would sit up and take notice (we only remain nominally on top because they think we are. They stop thinking it, we take the fall). We could immediately get folks back to work in a big way, be able to reduce military spending across the board and increase the confidence in our paper. I'd couple that with single payer nonprofit health system (save 400 billion a year, start biting into the `unfunded mandate' that is medicare and level the playing field with our competitors that have been using their systems to their advantage for some time now - don't particularly cotton to this plan but don't see any other way to knock off half-a-trill. a year and to stick it to our trading partners).

The above would go a long way to prove that we are capable of functioning as more than a dumping ground for cheap gee gaws while twirling about in the lint in our collective political navel.

Old and in the way but not so cynical I'll quit my inveterate letter writing (always send Return Receipt Requested - I keep the little green cards in a box with my honorable discharge).

You got my vote..

ON

 

[vfem]

Has he made any effort in saving money at all while he was in the White House?

I'm pretty sure he's still there... and to date, I think he's taken less vacations then Bush ever did in his first 6 months.​

 

[booker81]

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Having lived through the embargo in `73 (heck, just read the gas price threads from this board from a couple of summers ago when a barrel hit $140.00), I can say that it is the only market that we expose ourselves to that could shut us down tomorrow. ~700 billion out the door to other nations every year. Absolutely an issue of National Security (do you really think Osama would have bothered dropping the WTC if we had kissed-off the House of Saud decades ago?). I'll forego any mention of anthropogenic warming hypotheses.

Sen. Lamar Alexander proposed building 100 new light water reactors a few years ago, Obama has paid lip service (little money) to this absolutely `green' source of baseload power production. We could skip the LWR's and jump straight to thorium burners (as it is the `plan' is to build a `demonstrator' in 2025 - has been back-`burnered' by `tools' of both the `oily's' and the `greenies'). Heck, I'd be happy if there was any National Energy Policy at all (run cars on Natural gas for all I care - we have plenty). Think about it: Chavez gets a bit twitchy, oil market speculators play his `mood' and a week later we're paying a couple more cents a gallon at the pump? That we allow ourselves to remain hostages to this sort of idiocy (more accurately: slaves to a hydraulic despostism) makes me wonder.

If the government woke up with any sense, tomorrow morning, and declared that the U.S. would be energy independent in a decade, and would be spending whatever it takes to ACTUALLY repair/rebuild/expand our infrastructure (all investments of OUR money that OUR grandkids would actually PROFIT from) the rest of the world would sit up and take notice (we only remain nominally on top because they think we are. They stop thinking it, we take the fall). We could immediately get folks back to work in a big way, be able to reduce military spending across the board and increase the confidence in our paper. I'd couple that with single payer nonprofit health system (save 400 billion a year, start biting into the `unfunded mandate' that is medicare and level the playing field with our competitors that have been using their systems to their advantage for some time now - don't particularly cotton to this plan but don't see any other way to knock off half-a-trill. a year and to stick it to our trading partners).

The above would go a long way to prove that we are capable of functioning as more than a dumping ground for cheap gee gaws while twirling about in the lint in our collective political navel.

Old and in the way but not so cynical I'll quit my inveterate letter writing (always send Return Receipt Requested - I keep the little green cards in a box with my honorable discharge).

You got my vote..

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[welsummerchicks]

twirling lint in navel - I didn't agree with anything, but liked that phrase.

 

[I have WHAT in my yard?]

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You got my vote..

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I'll volunteer to work on your policy development team! Every word of this is correct.

 

[Dunkopf]

Nuclear reactors cost a few billion each to build. The only way to do it is with government subsidies. That would be a good solution to the energy problems though. Unfortunately big oil has their arm up the backside of most politicians. When you throw in a POTUS that's a big oil man then it sets us back quite a ways.

Your statement was very good. Too bad DC can't figure it out.

 

[EweSheep]

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Me too! I was going good until I saw that comment and had to laugh!