Well I'm coming into this very very late, and there are so many different posts - I'm not sure exactly where to start.
I did want to clear up two matters, first.
First - botulism never ever causes wry neck. It causes neck flaccidity and paralysis. Anything that the bacteria of botulism touches, it causes limp paralysis - never tightening or contractions of muscles, which would characterize wry-neck, otherwise known as torticollis. When symptom searching, search for torticollis.
Second, please never sprinkle antibiotics. They're never to be used in any amount other than the full strength for the full number of days otherwise you will cause MORE bacteria to bloom than you had before, and they'll now be resistant to this drug.
Teddiliza, please email me or PM me privately - or start another thread and do please let me know where it is (Email or PM) so that we can help you. Your bird likely has something completely different. Do not take thi sadice exactly. And do NOT start duramycin for pneumonia. It's ineffective. I hope to hear from you. Besides you can't use duramycin and yogurt together.
OK, this bird. The blood was likely from the antibiotic use. Antibiotics, misused, cause good bacteria to die and bad to bloom. That causes irritation of the gut and thus blood.
What exactly are you doing now? What is she eating, what vitamins exactly is she getting? Does she have any swelling of her wattles? Has her crop emptied completely? The original twisting was likely her trying to get the crop contents to pass completely. Have they?
If you give her a 'cillin drug, please tell us which one so that we can get you a good dosage. And incidentally, the amoxicillins are very hard on digestive tracts and I would NOT recommend them for chickens as chickens are not dogs and cats! THey have totally different systems. Tetracycline is weak and really doesn't cover anything effectively any more on its own, certainly not in the dosages people choose to give their birds. It can be more effective when combined with another medicine.
I'd be more suspect of cholera (pasteurella) if there were any respiratory symptoms or any swelling of the face/wattles combined with wry neck. And so if you give an antibiotic, what exact disease are you treating?
First, I would do vitamins daily. Polyvisol offers a nice range of the oil vitamins without being in the water or exposed to air. 3 drops of the baby vitamins (without iron) daily in the beak. I would also continue a FULL tablet of a B-complex vitamin daily. As well as a 400 to 800 IU capsule of vitamin E daily - both for its effects against bad bacteria (the blood in her stool), its anti-inflammatory properties (Possible neurological involvement, her neck), and anti-oxidizing properties.
I would give her yogurt daily because of the stress - but NOT if you give any 'cycline or 'mycin medicine. It will cause the meds not to work. In that case, give a probiotic capsule's contents instead, or Probios powder from the feedstore.
If you choose for some reason to give a 'cillin, I'd recommend penicillin infections so that you don't further irritate the digestive tract. Avian systems are highly dependent on bacteria in the lower intestinal regions to digest the otherwise indigestable woody plant products they eat as a staple. (That's why dogs and cats can do better on oral 'cillins than do brids, whose digestive tracts are drastically effected by them). When you give an antibiotic, it will kill the good bacteria and cause a secondary fungal infection - which compounds the problem my causing diarrhea, lack of nutrition, and vitamin deficiencies. So inject 'cillins, feed mycins and other things orally.
If you try an antibiotic, try one that has an effectiveness against pasteurella since the wry neck could be from that.
Honestly were she my bird, I'd first really hit all the B vitamins and the E and the polyvisol for a week and let that take effect. It won't happen overnight. It may be that you'r ejust now seeing the B effects, particularly if the birds' foot/feet curl at all or if she sits on her hocks.
I did want to clear up two matters, first.
First - botulism never ever causes wry neck. It causes neck flaccidity and paralysis. Anything that the bacteria of botulism touches, it causes limp paralysis - never tightening or contractions of muscles, which would characterize wry-neck, otherwise known as torticollis. When symptom searching, search for torticollis.
Second, please never sprinkle antibiotics. They're never to be used in any amount other than the full strength for the full number of days otherwise you will cause MORE bacteria to bloom than you had before, and they'll now be resistant to this drug.
Teddiliza, please email me or PM me privately - or start another thread and do please let me know where it is (Email or PM) so that we can help you. Your bird likely has something completely different. Do not take thi sadice exactly. And do NOT start duramycin for pneumonia. It's ineffective. I hope to hear from you. Besides you can't use duramycin and yogurt together.
OK, this bird. The blood was likely from the antibiotic use. Antibiotics, misused, cause good bacteria to die and bad to bloom. That causes irritation of the gut and thus blood.
What exactly are you doing now? What is she eating, what vitamins exactly is she getting? Does she have any swelling of her wattles? Has her crop emptied completely? The original twisting was likely her trying to get the crop contents to pass completely. Have they?
If you give her a 'cillin drug, please tell us which one so that we can get you a good dosage. And incidentally, the amoxicillins are very hard on digestive tracts and I would NOT recommend them for chickens as chickens are not dogs and cats! THey have totally different systems. Tetracycline is weak and really doesn't cover anything effectively any more on its own, certainly not in the dosages people choose to give their birds. It can be more effective when combined with another medicine.
I'd be more suspect of cholera (pasteurella) if there were any respiratory symptoms or any swelling of the face/wattles combined with wry neck. And so if you give an antibiotic, what exact disease are you treating?
First, I would do vitamins daily. Polyvisol offers a nice range of the oil vitamins without being in the water or exposed to air. 3 drops of the baby vitamins (without iron) daily in the beak. I would also continue a FULL tablet of a B-complex vitamin daily. As well as a 400 to 800 IU capsule of vitamin E daily - both for its effects against bad bacteria (the blood in her stool), its anti-inflammatory properties (Possible neurological involvement, her neck), and anti-oxidizing properties.
I would give her yogurt daily because of the stress - but NOT if you give any 'cycline or 'mycin medicine. It will cause the meds not to work. In that case, give a probiotic capsule's contents instead, or Probios powder from the feedstore.
If you choose for some reason to give a 'cillin, I'd recommend penicillin infections so that you don't further irritate the digestive tract. Avian systems are highly dependent on bacteria in the lower intestinal regions to digest the otherwise indigestable woody plant products they eat as a staple. (That's why dogs and cats can do better on oral 'cillins than do brids, whose digestive tracts are drastically effected by them). When you give an antibiotic, it will kill the good bacteria and cause a secondary fungal infection - which compounds the problem my causing diarrhea, lack of nutrition, and vitamin deficiencies. So inject 'cillins, feed mycins and other things orally.
If you try an antibiotic, try one that has an effectiveness against pasteurella since the wry neck could be from that.
Honestly were she my bird, I'd first really hit all the B vitamins and the E and the polyvisol for a week and let that take effect. It won't happen overnight. It may be that you'r ejust now seeing the B effects, particularly if the birds' foot/feet curl at all or if she sits on her hocks.