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Updates on the last pages: Neighbor is threatening me and my chickens

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Okay, I'm a newcomer here, but I have lived all over the country and have local government experience, including dealing with neighbor feuds--which is what this is. It's not so much about the chickens, it's that OP and her neighbor hate each other and have entered into a Hatfield and McCoy war with each trying to hurt or punish the other as much as possible. The chickens are just being used as leverage within this larger feud.

So, I have some opinions that are going to be difficult to hear and are going to hurt to listen to--but trust me when I tell you I'm one of the few people in this thread that is going to tell OP the truth about her situation. We all want to be supportive, and all of us understands the good that chickens bring to a family and even a neighborhood and the unfair, frankly ridiculous restrictions that are put on their keeping, considering they are less noisy and smelly and troublesome than most dogs or cats.

So, here's the cold hard truth of it, @Smileybans--Your chickens are banned by law in your municipality, and no one is on your side. You've made enemies of everyone you've attempted to work with, either by being threatening, being viewed as unreasonable, or just by being a pest. Yes, you can apply for a variance--but the same people who have **already ruled** on your case have already said you have to get rid of the chickens.

I know **I know** you love these birds and they are your world and you've dedicated nearly every waking hour of your days for months and months dedicated to worrying and scheming on how to keep them---but you can't. The worry and dread and anticipation of having to get rid of your chickens--for months, I assure you, is worse than actually rehoming your flock. This stress of this war and these chickens is not only impacting your mental health, but it is also negatively impacting your relationship with your husband, it has impacted your kids (CPS was called, even if it was a vindictive call, your kids have been dragged into this war) and NONE of this human trauma is worth keeping some chickens, no matter your emotional attachment to them. This emotional tie to them balanced with what it is costing you is unhealthy. It is selfish, and it's hurting you, your family, and is continuing the war with your neighbor and alienating all of your allies.

If life was fair, you WOULD be able to keep those chickens, because they aren't hurting anyone--but life isn't fair, and you have a shitty neighbor who escalated things to the city and now you're screwed. You were in the wrong when you originally got the chickens, and now you've been found out--your best chance was a petition--but you tried that and by your own admission you couldn't even get a handful of people willing to sign on. People in your municipality don't want chickens. Your neighbors don't want you to have chickens. The law says you can't have chickens. Therefore, you can't have chickens.


Your choice is to either rehome the chickens to people who will appreciate and care for them as you'd like them to be cared for, then work through your pain and grief and get through it as best you can---

Or

You can continue to dedicate your life, and drag your family along with you to stressing and worrying and scheming and warring only to eventually lose the war. The city WILL make you get rid of those chickens, even if they have the sheriff come and physically remove them, which you definitely don't want. You can try and hide and ignore them and let them fine you, but the city will get its way, and if you wait too long, those birds that you love so much are going to end up injured or where they end up will be completely out of your hands.

Again, I know this sucks--it sucks bad. I personally have anxiety issues and although I could never say I know and understand what you're going through, I have some sympathy for what you might be feeling. It's horrible and all-encompassing. I am sure, though, that letting go is the healthier and proper path here. Let the birds go---let the war go, and focus your efforts instead towards moving to a place where you can build a peaceful life of your dreams, away from your toxic neighbors and your small political town, where you can be sure that you can build a flock that won't be threatened again.

I truly am sorry you've been placed in this position, but you have the power and the ability to stop the pain and drama by finding good homes for your birds and being an example to your kids of how to handle a difficult decision and doing the right thing even if it hurts.
 
Okay, I'm a newcomer here, but I have lived all over the country and have local government experience, including dealing with neighbor feuds--which is what this is. It's not so much about the chickens, it's that OP and her neighbor hate each other and have entered into a Hatfield and McCoy war with each trying to hurt or punish the other as much as possible. The chickens are just being used as leverage within this larger feud.

So, I have some opinions that are going to be difficult to hear and are going to hurt to listen to--but trust me when I tell you I'm one of the few people in this thread that is going to tell OP the truth about her situation. We all want to be supportive, and all of us understands the good that chickens bring to a family and even a neighborhood and the unfair, frankly ridiculous restrictions that are put on their keeping, considering they are less noisy and smelly and troublesome than most dogs or cats.

So, here's the cold hard truth of it, @Smileybans--Your chickens are banned by law in your municipality, and no one is on your side. You've made enemies of everyone you've attempted to work with, either by being threatening, being viewed as unreasonable, or just by being a pest. Yes, you can apply for a variance--but the same people who have **already ruled** on your case have already said you have to get rid of the chickens.

I know **I know** you love these birds and they are your world and you've dedicated nearly every waking hour of your days for months and months dedicated to worrying and scheming on how to keep them---but you can't. The worry and dread and anticipation of having to get rid of your chickens--for months, I assure you, is worse than actually rehoming your flock. This stress of this war and these chickens is not only impacting your mental health, but it is also negatively impacting your relationship with your husband, it has impacted your kids (CPS was called, even if it was a vindictive call, your kids have been dragged into this war) and NONE of this human trauma is worth keeping some chickens, no matter your emotional attachment to them. This emotional tie to them balanced with what it is costing you is unhealthy. It is selfish, and it's hurting you, your family, and is continuing the war with your neighbor and alienating all of your allies.

If life was fair, you WOULD be able to keep those chickens, because they aren't hurting anyone--but life isn't fair, and you have a shitty neighbor who escalated things to the city and now you're screwed. You were in the wrong when you originally got the chickens, and now you've been found out--your best chance was a petition--but you tried that and by your own admission you couldn't even get a handful of people willing to sign on. People in your municipality don't want chickens. Your neighbors don't want you to have chickens. The law says you can't have chickens. Therefore, you can't have chickens.


Your choice is to either rehome the chickens to people who will appreciate and care for them as you'd like them to be cared for, then work through your pain and grief and get through it as best you can---

Or

You can continue to dedicate your life, and drag your family along with you to stressing and worrying and scheming and warring only to eventually lose the war. The city WILL make you get rid of those chickens, even if they have the sheriff come and physically remove them, which you definitely don't want. You can try and hide and ignore them and let them fine you, but the city will get its way, and if you wait too long, those birds that you love so much are going to end up injured or where they end up will be completely out of your hands.

Again, I know this sucks--it sucks bad. I personally have anxiety issues and although I could never say I know and understand what you're going through, I have some sympathy for what you might be feeling. It's horrible and all-encompassing. I am sure, though, that letting go is the healthier and proper path here. Let the birds go---let the war go, and focus your efforts instead towards moving to a place where you can build a peaceful life of your dreams, away from your toxic neighbors and your small political town, where you can be sure that you can build a flock that won't be threatened again.

I truly am sorry you've been placed in this position, but you have the power and the ability to stop the pain and drama by finding good homes for your birds and being an example to your kids of how to handle a difficult decision and doing the right thing even if it hurts.
You’re right on some things. Like how no one is on my side. But as @BigBlueHen53 put it before living without these chickens would give me more anxiety. Would kill me.
 
Honestly if I were in your position all of my effort would be put into finding another residence. If you lived anywhere where chickens/Roos were legal, the rest of the stress you have would disappear. Even if the property isn’t the greatest, you could always slowly make improvements. If you could acquire a piece of land in a place zoned for chickens, put up a rented trailer or cottage/shed/tent/shelter to live on and sell/rent your current place, and upgrade as needed, you wouldn’t have to deal with the neighbor, zoning board, etc. I am not trying to make it sound easy logistically or financially, but if you could get a small loan and try to find the cheapest piece of land or even sublet a corner of land from a farmer to keep your chickens on until you can move, you could go there every day and take care of them yourself until your place sold and you found a new residence. I feel like you keep hitting dead ends in your current situation, so focus all of your time & energy on getting out. If you lived near me I would let you use a small corner of the family property to house your chickens until you moved for free...maybe a nearby farm would do the same (or you could barter you giving them eggs and baby chicks in exchange for a temporary small piece of land to house your chickens and run). I am so sorry you have to go through this. If the board and your neighbor won’t budge, time to start looking for another solution allowing you to keep your birds and your sanity. Is your property listed for sale yet? You could probably sublet/rent it until it sells to get income.Good luck and I am keeping you in my thoughts.
 
Honestly if I were in your position all of my effort would be put into finding another residence. If you lived anywhere where chickens/Roos were legal, the rest of the stress you have would disappear. Even if the property isn’t the greatest, you could always slowly make improvements. If you could acquire a piece of land in a place zoned for chickens, put up a rented trailer or cottage/shed/tent/shelter to live on and sell/rent your current place, and upgrade as needed, you wouldn’t have to deal with the neighbor, zoning board, etc. I am not trying to make it sound easy logistically or financially, but if you could get a small loan and try to find the cheapest piece of land or even sublet a corner of land from a farmer to keep your chickens on until you can move, you could go there every day and take care of them yourself until your place sold and you found a new residence. I feel like you keep hitting dead ends in your current situation, so focus all of your time & energy on getting out. If you lived near me I would let you use a small corner of the family property to house your chickens until you moved for free...maybe a nearby farm would do the same (or you could barter you giving them eggs and baby chicks in exchange for a temporary small piece of land to house your chickens and run). I am so sorry you have to go through this. If the board and your neighbor won’t budge, time to start looking for another solution allowing you to keep your birds and your sanity. Is your property listed for sale yet? You could probably sublet/rent it until it sells to get income.Good luck and I am keeping you in my thoughts.
We are working with a realtor now and trying to get loans. I’m just trying to get the variance until I move. I don’t want to get rid of all of my chickens just to move
 
You’re right on some things. Like how no one is on my side. But as @BigBlueHen53 put it before living without these chickens would give me more anxiety. Would kill me.
Again, I'm very sorry you're in this position, but this pain and your attachment to the chickens is completely within your control to manage--even if it doesn't feel that way right now. This hell that you're in is self-imposed. I would encourage you to speak to your primary care provider, or your therapist/psychiatrist if you have one about your feelings on this situation. It's possible to live a life without this feeling of desperation and pain, and it's not healthy to feel like to give these chickens up to a caring home would result in you wanting to hurt yourself. Everyone here cares about you, your family loves you and they need you. Your happiness and peace and mental health is worth more than anything else--and the root of happiness and health is not in an attachment to chickens--your mind is just not letting you see that right now without some help.

I wish you health and happiness and a positive outcome in this situation.
 
We are working with a realtor now and trying to get loans. I’m just trying to get the variance until I move. I don’t want to get rid of all of my chickens just to move
I totally get it. I was just wondering if you might find a farm in your area and ask if you could lease a .25 acre to house your chickens until the move goes through. It would be a hassle to go take care of them every day, but at least they would be owned by you and wouldn’t be given away before your move happens. ❤️
 
I totally get it. I was just wondering if you might find a farm in your area and ask if you could lease a .25 acre to house your chickens until the move goes through. It would be a hassle to go take care of them every day, but at least they would be owned by you and wouldn’t be given away before your move happens. ❤️
I did ask one farm. They weren’t willing. I don’t know anyone else and I doubt they would.
 
So my neighbor is a drunk and has been for 30 some odd years. My mom says to ignore him. He has been acting nice to me now but then right after acting mean again. My mom says it’s something called wet brain and has to do with drunkards. Talking to this guy is giving me whiplash. I’m trying to ignore him but he’s trying to make “pleasant” conversation with one minute then biting my head off. 😡 I wish this all didn’t feel so
 
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Zoning board decided they weren’t even going to have a meeting to vote. We were told that the board of trustees is just saying no and we have 24 hrs to get rid of our chickens. That the state got involved and their law is 500 ft from the road. There is no such law, that I can find, and they’re just lying now. We moved to appeal, sent a letter to the village and town judge.
 

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