US Crele and White Sport Legbar Breeders - Alternative Legbar Group, for those not breeding to the P

[Junibutt]

One of my white sport pullet at 7 weeks:

 

[duluthralphie]

One of my white sport pullet at 7 weeks:

Nice looking bird!

 

[sol2go]

One of my white sport pullet at 7 weeks:

That is some bouffant! Did the parents have large crests too? I haven't seen this full of a crest in the white sport yet. Very pretty, really has a whole new look.

I will try to grab one of my white sport to share.

 

[Junibutt]

That is some bouffant! Did the parents have large crests too? I haven't seen this full of a crest in the white sport yet. Very pretty, really has a whole new look.

I will put try to grab one of my white sport to share.

Actually the father has a nominal crest and the mother is just regular. This one had a vaulted skull when she was born. I did not think she would survive because she would throw her neck down and fall asleep all the time. But she is thriving now.

The pair also had another pullet with a good sized crest last year. Here is a pic of that pullet:

 

[GreeneNimbus]

I have a white sport male cockerel from a seller locally who keeps hatching whites out of his regular pair. He says they are 3rd generation descent from Greenfire birds. I wanted to know if anyone else was breeding for whites only as I need some girls for this boy. I also have a very very very dark male from the same hatch that has a black tail and red saddle and black head and crest with gold neck. Crazy genetics here.

 

[ChicKat]

I have a white sport male cockerel from a seller locally who keeps hatching whites out of his regular pair. He says they are 3rd generation descent from Greenfire birds. I wanted to know if anyone else was breeding for whites only as I need some girls for this boy. I also have a very very very dark male from the same hatch that has a black tail and red saddle and black head and crest with gold neck. Crazy genetics here.

Hi Greene Nimbus!

You are right there are a lot of things going on -- and some of them are definitely hidden/recessive. I read a post lately -- because I think that the term "wildfarbig" applies to a chick that I hatched on the 10th of April that looked completely black...and no one had ever heard of a black CL.....but then thinking back..there have been people with particularly dark chicks -- I may have the darkest down -- but there have been dark pullets and cockerels shown. Generally people have either dismissed them as confusion in the eggs that were hatched, roosters unexpectedly pairing with the CL on the sly -- or 'only one barring gene' -- Your dark one may be "wildfarbig" -- it is unknown melanizers -- and it gives interesting result.s --

Here is the thread and the quote from Henk69 who is a genetics expert and created the chicken calculator that he shares with the world:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/609953/less-messy-genotype-question

His is post #6 -- and when I look for the German Bantams -- I find this thread on BYC:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/844552/german-bantams

Of course since the CL has barring genes -- it will be different lighter...but the German Bantams shown in the first pict are pretty chickens IMO. Is that what your very very dark male looks like?

The legs for a CL wouldn't be blue - but the plumage could be equally dark -- with the female showing some neck-hackle barring and the male showing barring. I think that the chick I got is a female...
Oh and did you have the male as a chick? Did it have a white headspot like some Barred Plymouth Rock chicks? sooo curious. :O)

 

[GreeneNimbus]

Here is Derpy the dark one

Gandalf the White. They are brothers and I got them after they were fledged so I never saw their downs. The parents were both normal pale legbars though confined to a breeding pen. Mom had a bit of salmon to her chest I think but it never occurred to me to take a photo. Dad was pale and creamy like he ought to be. There were a lot of whites and some of the others were also looking heavily gold ish in hue. Yet others looked much closer to standard.
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[GreeneNimbus]

You can't see in these pics but Derpy has red on his wing tips too

 

[Bantambird]

think this guy could possibly get that dark? That pair is amazing! Black and white brothers.. Who would guess!

 

[GreeneNimbus]

I have a public Facebook page with photos of my legbars and other chickens if you want to see what I'm doing and planning to do. It's not much yet but it's where I'm going to update what my mad scientist breeding ideas are

I also have a Whiting True Blue and some Ameraucaunas to play with.

http://www.facebook.com/nimbushobbyfarm