Vitamin D injection dosage?

Thanks for your help and great references @BlueAcres!

By the way, how did your hen handle the vitamin A+D shot you gave her about 3 months ago?

Last night I gave Betty the 2 shots (1ml Ca and 0.1ml A+D SC). I spoke to the vet today, who said those dosages were okay, but the Ca was a bit low for a laying hen (even though Betty hasn't laid in 5 weeks now). This morning, she ate a lot of her food, more than usual. She released quite a bit of stinky semi-solid diarrhea in the morning. Then she completely crashed. She was lying still in the corner of the bathroom. It honestly looked like she was going to stop breathing any minute. Every 20 minutes, she would stand up for 30 seconds, then lie back down. She didn't walk a step all morning. At lunch time we put her outside to lie down with her friends. More stinky diarrhea. She regained a bit of energy after that, but still much worse than I've ever seen her. In evening, she walked around a bit, and ate a bit of her food and some seeds. We gave her water + electrolytes via eye dropper, since she still won't drink on her own. She has also been tucking her tail down more than usual today, so I'm wondering if there's anything stuck inside her that the calcium might be unblocking (pure speculation). Her droppings in the last 1-2 weeks have been exemplary (excluding today), so her colon is not blocked.

Does anyone know if this behavior is common for vitamin A+D/Calcium injection? I'm hoping her system just needs a few days to re-adjust to the big change in Ca/A+D.

Thanks for the support! Any insight is much appreciated!
 
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Hi akmarad. At least the thing going for you is that you got a diagnosis that her Ca and D are low.

My pullet was a BPR so she was bigger than Betty (6 lb). On Oct 8 I gave her 0.25 cc of the A+D which was 6,600 IU/kg bw or 17,500 IU total IM. My notes: Seemed better the next couple days then developed diarrhea. I don't remember the diarrhea being as bad as what you describe and she certainly didn't get worse. On Oct 10 and 11 I gave her Poultry Cell and noted she developed diarrhea on the 12th (meaning in between her diarrhea cleared up). I gave another same dose of A+D on Nov 9. I did not note any adverse reactions.

In looking at my notes, I also treated a 5 lb hen. I gave her 0.15 cc at a rate of 5,000 IU/kg bw which was a dosage of 11,250 IU IM. I did all the same things and also gave her a Manganese tablet. She never had any adverse reactions that I noted.

Because Vit D is fat soluble I was nervous to continue frequently at very high rates without direction from a vet. I ordered the Osteo Form which has Vit D and phosphorous, reasoning that the ratios should be balanced for long-term use. I really like the product! I've been top dressing the feed of a couple birds with that and you would not know they ever had a problem. Have you researched calcium tetany?? This is my latest theory. Around the time this all started (April/May) I had switched feeds to a local mill. I thought their formulation must be off so I started supplementing with vitamins and minerals all my birds. My birds are all in top shape and look amazing (for example I've had eggs coming out of my ears all winter) so it was really odd to me that a couple birds would have this problem all of a sudden. In addition, they never stopped laying. In fact they were some of my best layers. Around this time I noticed a strong smell and some difference in quality from the oyster shell. I asked the feed store twice and they shrugged it off. At any rate, in reading about calcium tetany, I think these couple of high producing birds (the pullet grew super fast as well) had a calcium deficiency. All that to say, of all the things I did I think the Osteo Form was the best solution. I've also switched to a different oyster shell source.

I hope Betty improves. As you know, Ca strengthens muscle contractions so your theory may be correct. I certainly don't think you gave her too much vitamin D but it is possible it, or the Ca, triggered GI upset.
 
Also, electrolytes are important for the maintenance of Ca levels, so perhaps give her some electrolytes?

Some links on calcium tetany:
http://en.aviagen.com/tech-center/download/28/AviagenBrief_CalciumTetany_Apr09.pdf
https://barnhealth.com/features/web/index.php/front/disorder/view?id=147

In my case, I had a couple heavy layers with leg weakness especially immediately after laying (!), no change in shell quality or rate of lay. In fact, the pullet came into lay during all this. Because she was huge already she had been housed with my layer flock (her choice) so was consuming layer pellet apparently too early, predisposing her to a Ca imbalance. It's quite complex!
 
What are you guys feeding your birds as their regular diet? Just curious, didn't realize a deficiency like this was common with chickens.
 
Mine start on chick feed, then switch to grower until POL. Then layer pellet. All very high quality feeds, plus free-range every day, all day. Free choice oyster shell. Some breeders feed all-purpose all year and supplement with Ca. It can also be breed dependent and location dependent. My soils for example are selenium deficient.
 
We got the Osteo Form last week and started giving her 1/8th teaspoon/day diluted in water and fed with eye dropper (dosage recommended by vet). She's been maintaining a low energy, but eats a lot and is very social. Today 1 week since her shots), she was looking a bit worse, lying down for most of the day. She doesn't drink much and sometimes does this weird thing where she tucks her tail down, pumps her butt, then sits down. She also preens too much, which may be a sign she still has a deficiency. Tomorrow we're taking her to the vet for another blood test to see if the shots we gave last week fixed her deficiency or if she needs more A+D/Calcium.

It's also worth noting that before all of this began, we had integrated some pullets with the flock. Since they weren't all laying, we switched their layer pellets to grower crumble. Free choice grit, oyster shells and eggshells have always been available. On top of that, we were treating her for bumblefoot, which surely increased her stress levels. Throw in a soft molt and you have a recipe for a sick chicken. I think it was all too much for her body to handle. There may also be something stuck inside her, but I want to make sure the D3/Calcium deficiency is fixed before doing x-rays.

I'll keep you posted on what we find.
Thanks for your help!
 
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Great update! Thanks for the vet prescribed Osteo Form dosage. Definitely going in my notes. Hopefully she'll turn the corner next week. Really curious to hear what the bloodtest says.
 

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