For anyone considering having Dave build for you...DO.IT. I absolutely LOVE my chicken run built by VelvettFog, and he's a great guy to get to know and a wealth of information. His wife is extremely nice too, it was a pleasure having them both around my house for 2 days, and incredible that he got so much done in that time! Here's my run, which he attached to the coop with hardware cloth and wire fencing. He also modified my roosts, made me a poop shelf, and created/attached those nest boxes you see on the coop. All in a couple hours Thursday, all day Friday, and a couple hours Saturday morning, before moving on to the next VF tour house Another thing that hasn't been answered yet is that Dave does this for free. All he asks is that he be compensated for gas everywhere he'll be driving, a place to park his truck and trailer, and FOOD. You buy materials, he builds. That's it!