Got my brooder set up in the garage (it's too small to actually park our vehicles in thanks to previous owners building a spare room in the back half of both sides), chicks shipped yesterday, so I'm on "chick watch" with the postal service. Temps are around 63-64 in the brooder (lined the big dog crate with cardboard), have the brooder plate going, and have the heat lamp out and ready on standby if need be...but I'd rather not use it. Ready at any rate on the off chance that the babies can't all fit under the plate...it looks rather small, but does claim to be good for "up to 20" chicks and I'm only getting 15. The whole thing looks looks very hobbled together, but it should work. Probably going to have to take the school books and laptop out to the garage once they arrive...I can't imagine my kids will be able to stay away, lol.