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[broodytood]

You are correct about both. It does not prevent them from catching it, just prevents the symptoms and it cannot be transmitted vertically, although a weakness to the virus can.

Does vertically mean from hen to egg(chick in egg)?

 

[BGMatt]

Does vertically mean from hen to egg(chick in egg)?

Yes

 

[Chickielady]

I thought Mareks didn't survive well in the cold and wasn't persistent in the soil after a period of time.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the vaccine doesn't prevent the bird from catching Mareks, just prevents the symptoms. I didn't think it transmitted vertically.

Hopefully, what the vaccine does is help the bird's immunal system fight off the disease, not prevent it entirely.

 

[Chickielady]

Could be. Both are relatively minor threats that are all over the place and most long time breeders dismiss as irrelevant. You're right about the migratory birds, and then the native birds spreading it. Never understood why people make such a huge fuss about biosecurity and how dangerous shows are for spreading disease and then let their birds free range, or don't make their pens rodent and wild bird proof. I get either approach, but you can't have one and not the other.

Exactly !
Biosecurity does nothing unless your birds are in a secure, air-filtered poultry house.
Mice, rats, tweety birds, migrating water fowl, all can transmit, even our feed , hay, straw and wood shavings, can have mice droppings, bacteria, viruses or mites in it.

 

[Chickielady]

Does vertically mean from hen to egg(chick in egg)?

As I recall, Matt:
Isn't the virus 'grown' in chicken embryos ?
Then eradicated to weaken it ?
Can't remember...........pips&peeps is the Marek's Vaccine expert, actually any vaccine.

**** I sent her an e-mail and maybe she'll pop in & tell us all about the various vaccines.

 

[Chickielady]

I am going to put the plastic on my green house...I'll be back (hopefully) later this evening I have some ppl wanting eggs.
Pretty funny story of someone begging for Buster eggs (Buster is the super-crele chantecler in my avatar)

 

[T Hi]

Funny you mentioned that !
I had an antique Marble collection (don't laugh, some are worth alot of $$!)
AND my USA Pennies savings book (rare and old)
AND my USA Nickles savings book, both I had when I was in grade school.
SOMEDAY maybe I'll have all the right marbles !!!

Are you serious??? Did they really have nickles WAAAAAYYY back then. I thought varying sizes of rocks were the standard from of

back then !!

 

[Duck Drover]

What I read stated that Marek's is not transmitted vertically (via embryo) but that the feather dander can be on eggs and transmit that way. I have been working towards NPIP certification so my hatching room is now separate from my brooding room and both are separate from adult birds in order to have good biosecurity, plus I don't vaccinate so it would show up if I ever got it but I don't want it! I read about people having problems with sick birds and it concerns me because I don't want to risk my flock getting a disease.

At the same time, I do let my birds free range. I am considering going to "indoor" chickens but part of the joy of having chickens is having them run around outside. I am hatching Catdance Silkies so we have plans to make the Silkies an indoor facility where they will stay dry all year and not have access to rain but the feathered chickens handle the rain well enough to use sheltered areas during downpours while still taking advantage of the chance to catch worms.

The ducks are really the most ideal in this area because they practically take care of themselves and they love the rain! I got a duck call to use for fun and the chickens come running to it but the ducks come running when I water the grass. We actually set up a sprinkler for them in the summer on hot days because they love it so much. The Australian Spotted bantam ducks are hardy, good forages and layers, and they are such friendly ducks. I have a hen sitting on a nest that is due to hatch soon so we will have baby ducklings running around in the yard soon, although they will have to go in a safe pen for a few weeks so they are not picked up by the crows. The ducklings I am raising inside have already grown so much. I have a new hatchling in the incubator that is with Silkies that are also hatchling since I accidently scheduled hatches a day apart . I am hoping to have the Silkies out tonight so the rest of the ducklings can hatch but my first duckling is peeping away with my last Silkie chicks (not my Catdance Silkies since they just went into the incubators).

 

[Bleenie]

I use Ivomec pour on, applied to the base of the neck. His infestation was so bad that I did a 1/2cc rather than my normal preventative 1/4cc I use on my other LF birds. I treat every 6months and haven't had a parasite problem in years.

I actually started using it after I got a BLRW too that I could NOT get rid of lice on with anything else. Everyone else in the coop would be spotless and that guy would have nits all over him. Was the weirdest thing but the Ivomec worked within hours and he never got em again.


Does anyone here have experience with chicken joint problems or possible arthritis in a chicken? This guy is still very slow moving, I'm sure partly because he's not well yet, but also I really noticed today that his left leg seems to be "catchy" or something. The dog went by his pen and he jumped and moved but his leg moved weirdly and he looked painful.

Oh, also, you can get Sevin DUST in the bug killer aisle, and dust their bottoms with it.
Don't breath it though !
Sevin dust seems to work when all others fail.
cmsdvm has mentioned mites seem to be morphing into "super bugs"...where permethrins used to work, they no longer seem to do so.
I have had mites here that Eprinex did nothing for !
Only Sevin worked, and sevin liquid spray'ed walls, ceilings, bedding & the entire pens !
Yes mites nowadays can get really out of hand really fast, that's why we are watching to see if it is a depluming mite, or a Northern Red Fowl Mite.
Depluming mites make the birds itch so bad they pull their feathers out.
These little buggers can bite you too !

I picked some dust up to dust the area he's in and around my coop just to be safe. I usually have to have someone else do the dust when I use it because I have such a bad reaction but his current space is a brooder so it wasnt a huge area, got it dusted prrtty quick with my shirt over my face lol.

I will try the other feed and see what supplements I have on hand or can find at the feed store. Thanks for the help

 

[Hinotori]

Doesn't this face just say "I want down!"