Washingtonians Come Together! Washington Peeps

[Two Chicksahs]

Thanks Chickielady!

I rarely ever follow a recipe exactly except that bread recipes need to followed more precisely. Lentil give many people flatulence or as they used to say, "the vapors". I appreciate the input or suggestion and will play it by ear when the time comes.

E.S.


I have a great recipe you can have !

http://www.carrollshelbyschili.com/site.php

Chicken version:::

http://www.reilyproducts.com/123-oz.-White-Chicken-Chili-Kit

I do not care what anyone says, Carrol Shelby mad fantastic chili !!!

And excellent cars too !!

His spice kits are cheap, and in every grocery store.

I had 1 friend (years ago) make a Shelby chili with Hominy as he was allergic to beans.

Others have used lentils.

 

[CarolynF]

Here's something that may interest this group. This past week I had a hen suddenly get very sick. At first we all thought it was a broken egg inside because she was putting out slimy diarrhea and had yellow stuff on the feathers below her vent. What really caught my attention was when she shot a stream of liquid from her vent in the evening while on the perch. Luckily I'd just moved! Then starting the next morning here's what happened....

Day 1: She stayed in the nest box for hours, stopped eating, became very lethargic. She didn't act broody though. Very submissive. So I brought her inside and started antibiotics. She was drinking a lot of water but not eating. What really bugged me was the Sulfur Yellow, not quite flourescent yellow diarrhea.

Day 2: She had stopped eating and drinking altogether. So I had to force feed her, which is a different topic. Her temp was pretty high, too. The diarrhea continued. Being reasonably sure it wasn't a broken or bound egg I found another possibility and began treatment for that.

Day 3: I cleaned her area for the zillionth time, tossed the gooey mess out and noticed there were some solids -- making an improvement, good. Then I did a double take. What I thought was a kind-of-solid-yellowish-poop looked like a picture I'd seen last week in an article about Lash Eggs. I cut it open and sure enough it was. So what now.





I read several articles by experts and vets. It's not an egg, but coagulated material that's expelled thru the oviduct. The body is fighting an infection that can be either bacterial or viral. So the cause can be a variety of things. The prognosis was not good. And I needed to know three things:

1. Will the cause of this infection, whatever it is, cause the rest of my flock to suffer the same issues and can I do something to prevent it?

2. After treating the infection will she ever lay again?

3. Will she die within a few months even though I treat the infection?

Via email I contacted the State Vet in Puyallup that does necropsies. She very kindly sent me the information to make my decision. She did not recommend a necropsy.

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So now I know this:

A. The infection is most likely bacterial (I'd come to the same conclusion based on the composition of the Lash Egg).

B. The offensive bacteria is entering when the hen is laying her egg... so even though I'm keeping the coop clean I need to keep the nest box even cleaner.

I have to confess, this was hard to hear. I faithfully scoop poop and clean the coop and pen every morning. But I don't empty the nest box often as there is very rarely any poop in it. The eggs rarely even get dirty. I use sand with DE, lavender and sevin. On top is straw. I feel that I've been neglectful. I wonder if the other hens already have the infection and will succumb to it before long.

So yesterday I gave everything a thorough cleaning. I took everything out of the nest box, washed it, bleached it, set it in the bright sun to dry and let the UV rays do their disinfecting too. Then I sprayed everything with Neem Oil. The other thing that made this hard on me was knowing so many people that have dirty coops, pens, waterers, and eggs and their birds live uneventful lives and continue laying for 4 years or more. This lovely hen was barely 2 and not a hatchery bird. I had a SFH that I put down in Dec. that I would wager had the same issue.


As to the fate of this hen:

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I hope this information helps someone else.

 

[MamaEggEnd]

does anyone have any recommendations on where I could post to rehome my two cockerels? One barred rock 11 weeks and one speckled sussex 12 weeks, both beautiful and well handled and loved. Really hoping to find them a long term home.

 

[QuiltinGramma]

I have no idea. As far as I know, they are not interested in males. The males ARE interested in hens, and will 'call' them, with announcements of food or treats, and the hens come running.
Cocks crow to announce their territtory to other cocks.

I know it sounds like a silly question...but newbies have silly questions. So, if the roosters are the ones interested in the opposite sex, are they like cats who are aware of other females in the neighborhood?

I just wondered if the neighbor's rooster was aware of my hens and vice versa.

 

[Lil Go Peep]

Been busy setting up a new pen situation for all our hatched chicks - bantams and the LF Cochins are now in their upgraded areas- we do apparently have to divide and conquer the mass roosters in out bantam bunch, those will go into their own pen until we pick out which ones we want, then rest get to go

 

[sphinxface]

Isnt this what chickens are for?! Honestly I'm surprised I still have pill bugs


Those pests, I've read, aren't really bad for the garden I read? But maybe they just really like your beans? You could try making "traps" for them? Lay down a board, come back a few days later with your chickens by your side and let them gobble up the goodies under the board

If I let any chickens go in the garden they annihilate everything, lettuce, peas, beans, what they do not eat, they rotovate. That and the fact that most pill bugs & all earwhigs hide during daylight. What we truly need is night chickens...a scarey thought, huh ?

Yeah having them in the garden while you want to eat what you're growing isnt a good idea generally. I let them forage around it after everything dies. But the plank of wood, that can be around the garden, the bugs will hide under it during the day and when you flip it over there they are! I haven't seen too many ear wigs this way, but it works amazingly on pill bugs, since they like wood

 

[CarolynF]

does anyone have any recommendations on where I could post to rehome my two cockerels? One barred rock 11 weeks and one speckled sussex 12 weeks, both beautiful and well handled and loved. Really hoping to find them a long term home.

Generally speaking people will use Facebook groups for your local area or county, sell them at the auction in Enumclaw or Chehalis, or offer on Craigslist. Are they hatchery/feed store chicks?

 

[MamaEggEnd]

Generally speaking people will use Facebook groups for your local area or county, sell them at the auction in Enumclaw or Chehalis, or offer on Craigslist.  Are they hatchery/feed store chicks?

I think yes they technically are hatchery quality, even though they are supplied to that place I got them by a small operation farm. thanks for the advice, I'll look for the fb groups for sure

 

[Chickielady]

Thanks Chickielady!

I rarely ever follow a recipe exactly except that bread recipes need to followed more precisely. Lentil give many people flatulence or as they used to say, "the vapors". I appreciate the input or suggestion and will play it by ear when the time comes.

E.S.


I have a great recipe you can have !

http://www.carrollshelbyschili.com/site.php

Chicken version:::

http://www.reilyproducts.com/123-oz.-White-Chicken-Chili-Kit

I do not care what anyone says, Carrol Shelby mad fantastic chili !!!

And excellent cars too !!

His spice kits are cheap, and in every grocery store.

I had 1 friend (years ago) make a Shelby chili with Hominy as he was allergic to beans.

Others have used lentils.

Oh I love Shelby chili ! Besides the hominy version, try chicken or tenderized chopped or diced steak or venison, YUM.

 

[Chickielady]

Here's something that may interest this group. This past week I had a hen suddenly get very sick. At first we all thought it was a broken egg inside because she was putting out slimy diarrhea and had yellow stuff on the feathers below her vent. What really caught my attention was when she shot a stream of liquid from her vent in the evening while on the perch. Luckily I'd just moved! Then starting the next morning here's what happened....

Day 1: She stayed in the nest box for hours, stopped eating, became very lethargic. She didn't act broody though. Very submissive. So I brought her inside and started antibiotics. She was drinking a lot of water but not eating. What really bugged me was the Sulfur Yellow, not quite flourescent yellow diarrhea.

Day 2: She had stopped eating and drinking altogether. So I had to force feed her, which is a different topic. Her temp was pretty high, too. The diarrhea continued. Being reasonably sure it wasn't a broken or bound egg I found another possibility and began treatment for that.

Day 3: I cleaned her area for the zillionth time, tossed the gooey mess out and noticed there were some solids -- making an improvement, good. Then I did a double take. What I thought was a kind-of-solid-yellowish-poop looked like a picture I'd seen last week in an article about Lash Eggs. I cut it open and sure enough it was. So what now.





I read several articles by experts and vets. It's not an egg, but coagulated material that's expelled thru the oviduct. The body is fighting an infection that can be either bacterial or viral. So the cause can be a variety of things. The prognosis was not good. And I needed to know three things:

1. Will the cause of this infection, whatever it is, cause the rest of my flock to suffer the same issues and can I do something to prevent it?

2. After treating the infection will she ever lay again?

3. Will she die within a few months even though I treat the infection?

Via email I contacted the State Vet in Puyallup that does necropsies. She very kindly sent me the information to make my decision. She did not recommend a necropsy.



So now I know this:

A. The infection is most likely bacterial (I'd come to the same conclusion based on the composition of the Lash Egg).

B. The offensive bacteria is entering when the hen is laying her egg... so even though I'm keeping the coop clean I need to keep the nest box even cleaner.

I have to confess, this was hard to hear. I faithfully scoop poop and clean the coop and pen every morning. But I don't empty the nest box often as there is very rarely any poop in it. The eggs rarely even get dirty. I use sand with DE, lavender and sevin. On top is straw. I feel that I've been neglectful. I wonder if the other hens already have the infection and will succumb to it before long.

So yesterday I gave everything a thorough cleaning. I took everything out of the nest box, washed it, bleached it, set it in the bright sun to dry and let the UV rays do their disinfecting too. Then I sprayed everything with Neem Oil. The other thing that made this hard on me was knowing so many people that have dirty coops, pens, waterers, and eggs and their birds live uneventful lives and continue laying for 4 years or more. This lovely hen was barely 2 and not a hatchery bird. I had a SFH that I put down in Dec. that I would wager had the same issue.


As to the fate of this hen:



I hope this information helps someone else.

Wow, good to know ! I was just going to suggest you call Dr Crispo at Puyallup...and then read on...
Try many antibiotics ?
Did she (Dr Crispo) suggest any 1 antibiotic over others ?
Or say if it is gram negative or positive bacteria ? Or if it is any 1 bacteria that causes this, or can it be any ?

Since the hen has passed the 'mass' of accumulaited "stuff" is she acting normally now ?
I wonder if irrigation of the tract would help (aka: douche) ?
Such as a vinegar or melaleuca douche ? (Mixed with warm water of course)

But do not feel bad !
I have my coops spotless & 2 years ago got the mites from hell !
Took forever to get rid of them, and broody hens were part of the trouble...they just sit there & get bit..................
I had to eprinex baby chicks still wet from hatch, to kill the mites the hen had !
I know how you can feel bad !
Hopefully this will clear up & all will be well again.