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[Imp]

Quote: Russ, where are you getting that info? It really is at odds with my experience of feeding green beans/raw shell beans, and the inherited livestock feeding patterns of my family (for poultry, cattle, sheep and pigs) although we are Blue Lake snobs, and I suspect that other cultivars have different chemical profiles. The only cultivated food bean I know for sure that has phytotoxic effect is fava beans which are antagonistic to people with sickle cell disorder and thalasemia and the monotypic carriers of those disorders.

There are a bunch of legumes that have toxic seeds (some vetches, all Lathyrus sweet peas) or whole plants that are toxic when mature (one of which was implicated in the death of the Into the Wild guy) but Phaseolus vulgaris and its cultivars is not something I've seen warnings about until right here in this thread, this week. We have, over the years, grown farm-stall size commercial beans, and fed the over-ripe fruits to cattle and pigs, had the Thousand Banty Army bottom prune all the pole beans, and this summer lost about 2/3 of the Blue Lakes to deer.

Sorry about my skepticism, but it's at odds with sixty years of observed experience.


I've known about dried beans for years. Easy to google for that information. Try beans toxic or hemogluttein. The reason it is not well known in the US is that beans are not as much a staple as they are in Europe. Here's the FDA site.

http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodSafety/...thogensNaturalToxins/BadBugBook/ucm071092.htm


I was surprised and got schooled in the topic, of green beans, last year, here:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/606700/cooked-green-beans-safe

Russ

btw- I am not advocating that beans are in the league as cyanide laced kool-aid. Just in the sharing of knowledge.

 

[mikeyb]

Quote: sure didn't miss much

 

[KMHunter]

Quote: Good to know you are using the Avia Charge. How long have you been using it and have you noticed any obvious positives? ~Dee~
I don't know. I give it to them once every week or two. So I can't say that it's real obvious. I give it to chicks and definitely when they are molting. Like right now. I use it to help keep them healthy and help them through stressful times. I think it works great as far as I can tell. Sorry I can't give you more info than that.

 

[JennS]

My friend's dog went home last night, and now my own dog is laying the guilt on thick for being left alone. Nothing is as sad as a lonely old dog, who keeps getting up and tottering around to try to find her friend. *sigh*



I'm sorry dog, but we just can't go out and adopt another dog right now.

I feel so guilty about it. The irony is, my friend's dog had so much fun over here that she wanted to come back with us, whined for a while after we left her house, and isn't eating all her food today. But she needs to stay with her owner. Dang it, my dog keeps looking up and me and giving me the sad Disney eyes.

Now she's outside looking out the gate for her buddy. I feel like such a heel.

Jennifer

 

[KMHunter]

Quote: sure didn't miss much

Yeah, it was disappointing!

 

[Chickielady]

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I use that stuff for my chick pens, so they can go out & not get out...although the boogers can still find a hole every so often, little houdinis !

 

[Chickielady]

I dose 1,000 au per chicken once a week in winter; I'll probably be giving Sylvia twice that a couple of times a week before I start moving the other BLRWs in with her after Ian's gone.
The big deficiency is daylight, and especially the rapid decrese in daylength: last year, between Halloween and Thanksgiving I got, at most, five eggs all together and then starting about then and increasing every day until they hit Spring and I got buried in an egg a day from everyone for a while, I started getting 3-6 eggs a week from all of the hens; tghe EEs started laying while they were still in the hall bathroom with no where near enough light. I'm trying to pick out the metabolic path of how much of the light thing is lack of Vitamin D metabolism and how much of it is related to the lutenizing hormone pathways that control ovulation and are, typically, sensitive to both light exposure and body fat content across species.
I need to google a whole lot more and possibly find some poultry science articles not done by Tyson/behind pay walls.

I use Broiler Max, all year, full dosage for the broilers and half for the layers.

 

[Chickielady]

I also do the green beans cooked (often canned since I don't often have fresh) Then add about 1/2 onion in ringlets a couple cloves of garlic chunked and a BUNCH of bacon ends aith most of thefat trimmed off. Heat until the onions are no longer crunchy. OOOO YEAH BABY

I could just about live on that!!! In fact I just may have to make that to go with the ham and acorn squash I am making for dinner tonight!.

 

[Chickielady]

I take it you missed the game on Thursday? The Hawks aren't playing today.

Yeah, it was a duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I was sicker on Thursday....so I guess I missed the whole thing, darn it.

I went out & gutted & added fresh shavings to the Java coop instead, in between down pours.
Took 5 minutes & 1/2 a contractor's wheel barrel of old nasty shavings...much more able to handle the small amount.

 

[Chickielady]

sure didn't miss much

So I heard, but at least they did not get pounded that bad !