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frosty morning here. Glad I didn't leave the little babies (3 weeks old) outside last night. Just to cold. Is it ever going to be warm?
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CL: I know that you are busy with family, so hopefully you will see this, if not I will PM you....or anyone else who knows the answer can pipe in.

Ivermectin topical. Do you order it? Are you still happy with the results? Do you feel there is a better product? I am liking the idea because it can worm and get topical parasites. I was going to "dip" my birds and even have purchased the "dip" for external parasites....but it has not been warm enough to do so. So, I was going to get some Ivermectin topical. Opinions and thoughts?

Yes, we did see some bugs, I dusted with a poultry dust. But, I just want to give them a second dose and something that might hold off the buggars for awhile. Oh, I have already DEd everything
 
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I have used it as a second dose after my vet vaccinated my first chickens for worms. I also used it for some 12-14 week old pullets I got from a breeder since I was sure they hadn't ben wormed. I never saw any external bugs or worms in their poop, so I can't actually tell you that it helped a known infestation. But it was easy to use.
 
Rare Feathers: That's great news! It must have been so hard not knowing...

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Mynahs I like. They are cute. Very trainable. Starlings.....
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mean mean birds.

I think out of all the birds I have around here Starlings are THE single most disliked!
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Am I gonna have to wait until they are done nesting, and try to close it up again more securely? Or is there something I can do about it now?

Hardware cloth? I don't think I'd wait. I really don't get any pleasure from destroying any critter, but it sounds like aggression and no compassion is the only way to deal with these birds. This is a small excerpt from a 2009 article:

"No other state poisoned more starlings last year than Washington. Starlings there caused $9 million in damages to agricultural operations over five years. Nationwide, starlings cause $800 million in damage to agricultural operations each year, according to a Cornell University estimate.

At one feed lot, some 200,000 starlings gathered each day, lining fence tops, wires, water troughs and even perching on top of cows. They've learned to steal the most nutritious morsels from the cattle troughs and pose an ever-present threat of moving disease from one ranch to another, said Roger Woodruff, director of Wildlife Services in Washington.

Nearly 650,000 starlings were poisoned last year in the state, an all-time record, he said."

Dat's a lot of birds potentially spreading a lot of disease...
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Several people around here (North Okanogan) have said there is still a bounty on 'em, but I haven't found the official word...

The rest of the article is here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/07/shock-and-caw-pesky-starl_n_278608.html
 
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I have used it as a second dose after my vet vaccinated my first chickens for worms. I also used it for some 12-14 week old pullets I got from a breeder since I was sure they hadn't ben wormed. I never saw any external bugs or worms in their poop, so I can't actually tell you that it helped a known infestation. But it was easy to use.

Thank you much. I see no worms in poop, but I did have the external (lice). I used Wazine 7 for a worm dose, but this was just for prophylactic reasoning. I figured used the Ivermectin topical....a second hit on the lice (which had been present) and would also be a second prophylactic dose wormer - but this time broad spectrum. Kinda of a "spring cleaning" if you will.
 
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We put up round bales, and a lot of haylage bales because they can be made in rainy weather, and right now, with new grass coming, on 13 cows and ten calves are going through three-four 8' (abt 1.5 ton. I think) bales a week. Horses don't find round bales palatable, apparently, because even the best old-dairy stuff gets wasted more than eaten so my cousin and my BIL's sister feed bought timothy hay to their horses.

Hay prices are probably going to be worse next winter, unless gas prices go down a whole lot. Most of the price of hay is in fuel, although square bales from local fields also have a labor bump; Western Washington doesn't have the huge automated hay-handling machines people East of the Mountains run and if you're buying from the barn you're paying to have the bales picked up and stacked. Of course there's also this sad fact: the best hay ground in Western Washington now grows retirement communities in Sequim!

They need to stop shipping it to other countries! We export most of our precious hay and we get a bunch of Chinese plastic crap and toxic dog food.
 
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