OK and STUMPFARMER:::
Talked to my Dad at his house yesterday..and I told him I was looking for nice old world fragrant climbing rose like a climbing Cecil Brunner...and he laughed so hard & pointed to a very dead BIG mega-stemed rose on a trellis against his fence.
Dead big canes were 1" through and 10 feet tall.
He said "too bad, I could have given you that one", he was sooo happy it was dead.
I think (but he did not say) that he sprayed it with blackberry killer for months to kill it.
He said the &^%#%!!! thing never stopped growing, clean up past the fence & another 10 feet up in a big wad and gobbed up into a 20 year old apple tree in the neighbor's yard until bloom & rain/wind topple it over and then it loped over the fence into the neighbor's yard, a good 50 pounds of canes & thorns and wet heavy..he hated it!!
he said he had to constantly prune it, every week end, it never stopped.
once it toppled over it continued across the neighbor's lawn until they called him & announced they really needed to mow and they would have to cut the rose...
I have changed my mind about Cecil Brunner.
Talked to my Dad at his house yesterday..and I told him I was looking for nice old world fragrant climbing rose like a climbing Cecil Brunner...and he laughed so hard & pointed to a very dead BIG mega-stemed rose on a trellis against his fence.
Dead big canes were 1" through and 10 feet tall.
He said "too bad, I could have given you that one", he was sooo happy it was dead.
I think (but he did not say) that he sprayed it with blackberry killer for months to kill it.
He said the &^%#%!!! thing never stopped growing, clean up past the fence & another 10 feet up in a big wad and gobbed up into a 20 year old apple tree in the neighbor's yard until bloom & rain/wind topple it over and then it loped over the fence into the neighbor's yard, a good 50 pounds of canes & thorns and wet heavy..he hated it!!
he said he had to constantly prune it, every week end, it never stopped.
once it toppled over it continued across the neighbor's lawn until they called him & announced they really needed to mow and they would have to cut the rose...

I have changed my mind about Cecil Brunner.
