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Probably only 4. And yes, 90 is good. I paid 150 for 4 @ 10 ft. But last nights deal beat all!
Probably only 4. And yes, 90 is good. I paid 150 for 4 @ 10 ft. But last nights deal beat all!
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How is it doing this morning?
How is it doing this morning?
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That would be correct. Most of then look to be cast which I am not set up to do.
You could build up layers of flat metal like on your wolf thing, only more layers.
That would be correct. Most of then look to be cast which I am not set up to do.
You could build up layers of flat metal like on your wolf thing, only more layers.
Leaves are cut out, hammered on the anvil to 'curl' them, then tac welded to the face, which has to be hammered to be rounded as well.
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I agree with the tenure thing, and I don't know what determines teacher pay, but some great teachers get a lot less than that! I co-worker of mine who was earning over $50,000 a year quit his job and went back to school to become a teacher whn his wife was accepted into medical school at Columbia. He figured she'd be making the big bucks so his income did not matter, and he could do what he loved. He got his Masters degree and then taught in NYC for a few years, doing outward bound programs in the summer. When his wife got an internship is Seattle, he got a job as a science teacher at Issaquah high. After just one year, he was voted Issaquah's teacher of the year. His salary? $27,000, and that is only because he had experience and a Masters degree. He quit after 2 years because he needed to make some more $ to pay down his wife's student loans, so he tutored for a few years. His wife landed a real job at a hospital in Bellingham, so he is again teaching HS up there. This is an article on him, he recently was awarded State Teacher of the Year:
http://www.washingtonea.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1828&catid=179&Itemid=91
He devotes so much of his free time to lesson planning and stuff to make his classes interesting that is has become a major issue in his marriage. When he is home on school holidays and his wife is working, they hire a sitter to watch their 2 boys because he is busy learning and planning new lessons. His wife told me that some years the sitter gets paid more than he makes!
I'm not saying that all teachers should work this hard, but certainly teachers this dedicated should be paid more than a tenured teacher with no passion ofr the job. Those teachers need to go!
Another thing that bugs me is the huge push our district is doing in science and math - we have some of the best scores in the state in our little school district in these subjects. Some kids, however, are not cut out for this, and there needs to be a wider variety of classes available to them, including more vocational training. I guess it is a drawback of living in a district with only one extrememly over-crowded high school. Geographically, we are the largest district in the state. Some of those poor kids have to sit in that schoolbus an awfully long time!
I remember reading John Steinbeck's "East of Eden" 20+ years ago. In it I was struck by a line. I no longer remember the story, but there was a farmer with 2 sons, one built big and strong, the other with hands like a lady, and rather weak and prone to daydreaming. The father lamented that they were going to have to send him to college because he just physically does not have what it takes to work on a farm. It was said in the same tone that people refer to vocational schools now, the fall back plan for kids who can't cut it. That was once how college was viewed. With the extremely high numbers of people attending college now, I think it will once again be viewed that way. Without a graduate degree, college no longer sets you apart from the crowd. Everybody goes! And for the most part, colleges teach no practical hands-on skills. In my opinion, this should give the advantage to the kids who went to vocational schools! There are some jobs that can NEVER be shipped overseas ... you aren't going to send your car to China to be repaired, nor your plumbing to India ..... My job, assay development (molecular biology/genetics) for a local pharmaceutical company is now done in Taiwan. My coworkers scattered all over the country looking for jobs, and some fantastic older scientists with PhD's and impressive credential remain unemployed after more than 2 years since their jobs went overseas. They spent 10 years in colleges earning advanced degrees and holding internships for itty bitty stipends, the next 15 paying off their student loans. The jobs limit you to working in only a few cities in the country, all with very high costs of living. Sure the mechanic may earn a bit less, but he can live ANYWHERE, and no student loans, at least not big ones! College is often highly over-rated.
I agree with the tenure thing, and I don't know what determines teacher pay, but some great teachers get a lot less than that! I co-worker of mine who was earning over $50,000 a year quit his job and went back to school to become a teacher whn his wife was accepted into medical school at Columbia. He figured she'd be making the big bucks so his income did not matter, and he could do what he loved. He got his Masters degree and then taught in NYC for a few years, doing outward bound programs in the summer. When his wife got an internship is Seattle, he got a job as a science teacher at Issaquah high. After just one year, he was voted Issaquah's teacher of the year. His salary? $27,000, and that is only because he had experience and a Masters degree. He quit after 2 years because he needed to make some more $ to pay down his wife's student loans, so he tutored for a few years. His wife landed a real job at a hospital in Bellingham, so he is again teaching HS up there. This is an article on him, he recently was awarded State Teacher of the Year:
http://www.washingtonea.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1828&catid=179&Itemid=91
He devotes so much of his free time to lesson planning and stuff to make his classes interesting that is has become a major issue in his marriage. When he is home on school holidays and his wife is working, they hire a sitter to watch their 2 boys because he is busy learning and planning new lessons. His wife told me that some years the sitter gets paid more than he makes!
I'm not saying that all teachers should work this hard, but certainly teachers this dedicated should be paid more than a tenured teacher with no passion ofr the job. Those teachers need to go!
Another thing that bugs me is the huge push our district is doing in science and math - we have some of the best scores in the state in our little school district in these subjects. Some kids, however, are not cut out for this, and there needs to be a wider variety of classes available to them, including more vocational training. I guess it is a drawback of living in a district with only one extrememly over-crowded high school. Geographically, we are the largest district in the state. Some of those poor kids have to sit in that schoolbus an awfully long time!
I remember reading John Steinbeck's "East of Eden" 20+ years ago. In it I was struck by a line. I no longer remember the story, but there was a farmer with 2 sons, one built big and strong, the other with hands like a lady, and rather weak and prone to daydreaming. The father lamented that they were going to have to send him to college because he just physically does not have what it takes to work on a farm. It was said in the same tone that people refer to vocational schools now, the fall back plan for kids who can't cut it. That was once how college was viewed. With the extremely high numbers of people attending college now, I think it will once again be viewed that way. Without a graduate degree, college no longer sets you apart from the crowd. Everybody goes! And for the most part, colleges teach no practical hands-on skills. In my opinion, this should give the advantage to the kids who went to vocational schools! There are some jobs that can NEVER be shipped overseas ... you aren't going to send your car to China to be repaired, nor your plumbing to India ..... My job, assay development (molecular biology/genetics) for a local pharmaceutical company is now done in Taiwan. My coworkers scattered all over the country looking for jobs, and some fantastic older scientists with PhD's and impressive credential remain unemployed after more than 2 years since their jobs went overseas. They spent 10 years in colleges earning advanced degrees and holding internships for itty bitty stipends, the next 15 paying off their student loans. The jobs limit you to working in only a few cities in the country, all with very high costs of living. Sure the mechanic may earn a bit less, but he can live ANYWHERE, and no student loans, at least not big ones! College is often highly over-rated.
Ogress you are very correct there!
We cannot all be kings, and some of us are not cut out to be kings, nor want to be kings.
Some of us are stuck in boring tedious jobs for life, a living hell.
Some of us get lucky & find jobs that make us happy.
Jobs that do not necessarily buy us a high-end lifestyle, but genuine happiness is the ultimate goal, in my book.
A job that makes you happy & JUMP out of bed in the morning because you truly are interested in it, empassioned by it..and love the work you do...is one of the biggest things in a person's life!
Alot of people cannot 'see' this.
They look upon the "lowly" gardener or fisherman living in his shack by the sea and think "What a looser, he has nothing!"
But he does have all he wants, needs and a career he loves, and that is the biggest prize anyone can ever have !
Hope Alex finds his passion, and stays OFF that fishing boat!!!!
But who knows, he may grow to be an excellent sea captain !
Maybe on a cruise ship..maybe a chef on a cruise ship..who knows ?
We cannot all be kings, and some of us are not cut out to be kings, nor want to be kings.
Some of us are stuck in boring tedious jobs for life, a living hell.
Some of us get lucky & find jobs that make us happy.
Jobs that do not necessarily buy us a high-end lifestyle, but genuine happiness is the ultimate goal, in my book.
A job that makes you happy & JUMP out of bed in the morning because you truly are interested in it, empassioned by it..and love the work you do...is one of the biggest things in a person's life!
Alot of people cannot 'see' this.
They look upon the "lowly" gardener or fisherman living in his shack by the sea and think "What a looser, he has nothing!"
But he does have all he wants, needs and a career he loves, and that is the biggest prize anyone can ever have !
Hope Alex finds his passion, and stays OFF that fishing boat!!!!
But who knows, he may grow to be an excellent sea captain !
Maybe on a cruise ship..maybe a chef on a cruise ship..who knows ?
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Probably only 4. And yes, 90 is good. I paid 150 for 4 @ 10 ft. But last nights deal beat all!
Oh, BTW~~~~~~~~~~~~
Most excellent score girl!!!!!!!!!!
You lucked out BIG time, waiting to see pics!!!!!!!!!
Probably only 4. And yes, 90 is good. I paid 150 for 4 @ 10 ft. But last nights deal beat all!
Oh, BTW~~~~~~~~~~~~
Most excellent score girl!!!!!!!!!!
You lucked out BIG time, waiting to see pics!!!!!!!!!
I am trying for 6000...not gonna get there today though...gotta go, eat b'fast..and rest with this nasty cold/allergies.
Later guys!!!!!!!!
Later guys!!!!!!!!
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Those are the kind of teachers that deserve a raise!
Agreed! Raises should be based on performance, not just test scores, but reviews from parents and students.
When I was at U.C. Davis, there was a professor that all the students loved, he always had the highest ratings, and people fought to get in his class. He was reprimanded by the school and put on, I don't know what it is called, but your job is at risk, because his research was not brining in enough funds for the school. The professor killed himself. One of my professors was in tears as he spoke to the class. Even though the proffessor who killed himself was younger, he considered him a mentor. He was soooo angry with the school for this, because at a university where students pay to learn, the number one job should be to teach and to teach well. Very few people can be both great teachers and great researchers. My teacher, admittedly, was a great researcher, so he looked to the younger professor for advice on becoming a better teacher; and the school certainly brought in enough $ to support the great teacher. Heck, he probably drew paying students to the school.
Those are the kind of teachers that deserve a raise!
Agreed! Raises should be based on performance, not just test scores, but reviews from parents and students.
When I was at U.C. Davis, there was a professor that all the students loved, he always had the highest ratings, and people fought to get in his class. He was reprimanded by the school and put on, I don't know what it is called, but your job is at risk, because his research was not brining in enough funds for the school. The professor killed himself. One of my professors was in tears as he spoke to the class. Even though the proffessor who killed himself was younger, he considered him a mentor. He was soooo angry with the school for this, because at a university where students pay to learn, the number one job should be to teach and to teach well. Very few people can be both great teachers and great researchers. My teacher, admittedly, was a great researcher, so he looked to the younger professor for advice on becoming a better teacher; and the school certainly brought in enough $ to support the great teacher. Heck, he probably drew paying students to the school.
P.S. Looking for midget white turkeys, anyone have eggs or poults ??
Please send me a PM, & I am trying to get ahold of Eagle 202 but his link will not work, do I have it wrong?
Eagle2020 ???
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Please send me a PM, & I am trying to get ahold of Eagle 202 but his link will not work, do I have it wrong?
Eagle2020 ???
CR ???????????
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