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I did mention my problems with V. But other alternatives mae me sick as well. Im not supposed to take anything that is processed through the liver. So that alone narrows my options down to only a few meds.

This is my 7th go round with Plourosy in the past 3 years. I went 6 months of my pregnancy with DD having Plourosy. That was MUCH worse than what I am dealing with now.

Thanks for the concern though!

As you can see Im doing my best to eep my spirits up.

are you at home with this?

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Yep Im home. I have an old neighbor girl here. She's being nice enough to eep DD busy while I try and get the house piced up. Its taken me 4 hours to do two loads of laundry, sweep, and clean the kitchen... Normally it only takes 45 minutes to get all that iether done or started.
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I have several acres of them you can have for free!!!
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I actually have a patch of BB -- but never any fruit. They are on the hill side near the shop. I am forced to spot spray the Scotch Thistle that I see on my property - and when I moved in, there were many thistles among the BB. So most of the BB are dead now from repeated applications of 24D. Not happy about being required to spray, but if I don't I can get a fine. Even without the thistle, on this side of the mtns, if we don't water it, it dies so they get just enough natrual moisture to grow a little, but not really produce fruit. Any fruit that is produced is consumed (I reckon) by the 70 to 100 quail that call my hillside 'home'. I have a spring time creek that runs along the front of my property. There even the orchard grass stays green. I think if I put berries down closer to the creek that they'd grow and I'd be able to have fruit. I'd like both raspberries and BB's, or maybe just marion? Hmm.. I wish I had a few shares of irrigation
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Oh -- and Scotch Broom would get me in trouble with the same guys that get after me about the thistle - so I'll pass. But thanks
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Im starting to pay a bit more attention to my feed costs. I'm wondering if there's a better way to get my chicken feed other than buying it a few bags at a time. But, I don't know how quickly I'd go through 1,000 lbs either. I have a big enough truck that I could haul twice that amount.

What if -- I found a place that sold feed by the bag, at bulk prices. If I picked up a ton, would there be people along my 'route' home (I'd twist and turn a bit) who would be willing to chip in? Or maybe there are enough folks close to Yakima that you come to my house and pick up the bags you need?

I'm in Yakima. My last trip to Seattle and back with the truck I got 18.9 miles per gallon. I had about 450 lbs in the back on the way over, empty on the way back. I think that's fair millage for a 2500HD, so I'm willing to drive a bit because I'm pretty sure I'd save enough money to make it worth my while. And, it would be fun to say hi to ya as I drop off your 1/4 ton of chick starter .. lol


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Darn good idea VF, and mighty neighborly of you too!
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! I Not enough peoples on this side of the pond for me to do that with!
 
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If you can find food-quality 55 gallon barrels somewhere (canneries, for instance), it doesn't take many of them to store a ton of feed- five or six, if memory serves and the quick check on my calculator was worked with correct assumptions. That would be a convenient way to get into co-oping on feed: everybody buys a barrel with their first two shares, and from then on turns in an empty barrel on deliverof a full one. I miss the old-style feed co-ops, Western Farmers and Darigold, where you could buy sack goods at the ton price, and return the sacks for a deposit (or use them: I miss real burlap bags and their infinite uses).

I'm planning on futzing around with mixes over the next couple of months, using the grain dust and possibly corn I can buy from my BIL and whatever sack goods I can mix in that will improve palatability and nutritional profile, because the cost of chicken feed from the feed store isn't chicken feed! Next summer I'm going to experiment with small grain crops that I can grow here, although I keep thinking of the huge flock of Gold Crowned Sparrows which live on the dried blackberries and wondering how chickens would grow on that seed source. The easiest thing would be poppyseed, but that always involves so much explaining. I know that winter squash is traditional winter chicken supplement, but I can't depend on being able to have them grow here, since I've had frosts in every month except July.

Has anybody ever tried feeding NFHC/past pull-date baked goods? It used to be that we had to take a whole week's worth of everything, which is why we stopped feeding it to the cattle (labor and storage was a bearcat) but now they seem so eager to get rid of it they sell it at a per-rack price.

Also thinking about other insect/worm cultures, although the red worms seem impossible to use up. Mealworms take heat, right?

Free associating, sorry, not much sleep this week.
 
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Whata great name!

All of Penny's lambs have names from Greek mythology; on the other hand, very few lambs are so smart as mine: he can say his own name!

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Meal worms do not need much heat. There's a great thread in the food forum -- look for hellenkat - I think is the spelling of the poster. on page 3 or 4 she shows and explains her set up. I will duplicate that in a few weeks, maybe sooner, but on a grander scale I think. I'd like to be able to sell them.


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