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[ByN8ureHomstead]

Honey I'm home ! ! ! We had a pretty good trip. Got rained on pretty bad the first couple days but Saturday turned out beautiful. We were joined by jbear. This was our first trip together. Jen and our DD hit it off well and became wing girlz to the rails. We made it home in one piece. Although I had 2 break downs and it looks like I may be in need of a new transaxle and engine. Jbear's video on FB may explain part of what happened.

Quincy can now say he has been to the top of Coliseum.
I will refrain from posting more but just gotta put the mutt on here.

Looks like fun.

 

[ByN8ureHomstead]

People in Marysville..............

I suggest when these people start wanting to make rules you remind them to read the constitution.
If they had read it they'd know there should not be any rules for, or against chickens, or any other animal.

The constitution NEVER was intended for people to tell others how to live.

Now we know that statement won't change anything but I like to let so called officials to know that I know how this country was to be long ago when common sense was here in this country.

Common sense with communication dictated how we should live together.

I marked a few things in bold below because I find them to have comments that need to be addressed.

First one about coop being 100 feet from property line I suggest if that is what they want for chickens then that rule prohibits a whole lot of you from ever owning chickens.

It also tells me all of you with dog houses need to move your dog house back a 100 feet also. That's right.
Why does any other animal not have the same rule?

Anytime politicians want to change rules to make them better as they say I guarantee you if they do become better it is to EXERCISE more control in the long run.

Be careful of the small print saying they want to make things better.

Remember the Bold print giveth, and the small print taketh away.

Next part in bold talks about needing fences or your chickens can't free range. Really?
I suggest you ask those council members how many have dogs and cats? Oh you do?
How many have fences that keep those dogs and cats from leaving your yard?
Do your dogs bark?

Next bold part has to do with waste. Once again the uneducated people whom are CLUELESS about the best way to use chicken waste would know this idea of theirs does not allow you to obtain all the benifits of owning chickens.

Next part in bold talks about looking at other cities rules.
Hey I got an idea for Marysville council........... how about using your own brain and look at common sense. Read the constitution.
Just because other cities do something wrong does that mean you have to follow?

Maybe those council members should come to my property and weekly clean up all the dog waste from my neighbors dogs on my property eh?

See what happens when government sticks their head where it doesn't belong?

You have a problem with a neighbors animals you tell your husband to stop whining about it and to MAN UP and go talk to the neighbor in a respectful civil manor and get it worked out. I've read stories on this board over the years about quite a few so called men here who can't get off their butt to go talk to their neighbors.


More REGULATIONS is NOT what we need, what we need is more NEIGHBORS no matter MAN or WOMAN, COMMUNICATING with each other.

Years ago before these control freaks came into being, neighbors communicated and got things done.
Did it always work out for the best? Will it?
No, but there are also avenues like mediation that neighbors can use INSTEAD of going to court. Instead of more control freaks rules being enacted due to a few people complaining while their fluffy is on the back porch barking when a tree branch moves.

We can either learn to work with each other as neighbors should or we can continue to go down the road allowing others to tell us how to live our lives. The choice is yours.

One more item that needs to be said. All of you like myself whom lives in Unincorporated King County if you think you aren't going to be facing these types of rules some day I disagree.

They are coming.

All you have to do is watch the progression of the last twenty years of people whom have moved to the country bringing their city life with them.












Chicken owners may face new rules
Marysville is considering limits on the size of backyard flocks and other regulations.
By Amy Daybert, Herald Writer
Published: Saturday, June 9, 2012, 12:01 a.m.

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MARYSVILLE -- Better count your chickens.

Homeowners in Marysville may be limited to keeping a maximum of 12 chickens if their property is smaller than an acre. It's one of several limits the city is considering Monday for backyard chickens.

Marysville always has allowed people to keep chickens on their property. With that, city officials have gotten questions, especially since chicken-keeping is getting more popular.

"I think having your own eggs and chickens is kind of a growing trend," city administrator Gloria Hirashima said. "This seems to be something a lot of different communities are working on."

Right now, the only guidelines for chickens are that the pens and coops must be clean and set back 100 feet from the property lines. And there is no limit on how many chickens can be raised at a residence. The Marysville City Council could decide to add new requirements for chickens at a meeting 7 p.m. Monday at City Hall, 1049 State Ave.

Hirashima said the city has received more calls about chickens over the past couple of years. Some people wanted the setback to be shorter so that more property owners could keep chickens. When the idea came before the city's planning commission in March, commissioners felt there should be as few regulations as possible around the topic, Hirashima said.

A recommendation given to the council by the planning commission would set a maximum of 12 chickens kept on residential lots that are less than an acre. Shelters and other enclosures for chickens would need to remain in the back yard, be maintained in good condition and free of bad odors, and be located a minimum of 15 feet from property lines. Roosters would be prohibited on lots that are less than an acre.

Chickens can roam freely in back yards as long as there are fences to contain them. Chickens infected with diseases that are harmful to people must be removed. All waste must be kept in tightly covered fly-proof receptacles and disposed of at least once each week in a manner approved by an animal control officer.

The city of Lynnwood adopted an ordinance in March that had some similar rules for chicken keeping. The similarities include restricting chickens to back yards, prohibiting roosters and maintaining a 15-foot setback of coops and pens from neighboring property. Lynnwood allows up to five chickens on single-family properties.

City staff looked over regulations in other cities and found that the maximum number of chickens allowed on residential properties typically ranged between three and 12, Hirashima said.

People who want to keep chickens in their back yards do not need a license, but the rules should give the city the ability to investigate any complaints, Hirashima said. The new rules will let people who couldn't own chickens because of the setback requirements have them, and will help to bring others into compliance, she added.

"It's more permissive and should allow more people to legally have chickens in the city, but the Planning Commission and City Council didn't think that changing the rules would result in a huge influx of chickens," Hirashima said.

Amy Daybert: 425-339-3491; [email protected].

Most people don't care. One day they wake up, realize they are now a peasant and they will talk all the freedoms they use to have.

 

[Teva]

More or less- I got all the soup bones and stuff, so it adds up. About a half (maybe? maybe a third?) of any order is ground beef, but it's gourmet gound beef, dry hung and all from one animal. It's tasty stuff, I feel guilty making chili from it. You get to choose how thick steaks are and the weight of roasts, and other variables, but you will get stew meat, spare ribs, flank steak, also. Mom always called that "recipe meat:" I made beef chili verde tonight (pork makes me ache all over these days) out of stew meat.

Wow that sounds awesome. I make my own jerky from shoulder that I get from Home Meats. Love that place. Glad I don't live too far from it. They have really cheap smoked femurs and knee caps for dogs, too.

They also sell fresh bacon without nitrates. yay!

 

[Chicken Rustler]

Quote: Yes it was a good trip and we adopted a a couple riders to the crazyness !

The pic doesn't really show it but the pink is VERY bright! Those who have seen it can tell.

 

[ByN8ureHomstead]

Quote: Yes it was a good trip and we adopted a a couple riders to the crazyness !

The pic doesn't really show it but the pink is VERY bright! Those who have seen it can tell.
Glad you said something. I almost mention the pink looks faded.

 

[Sudsy Chick]

Kirkland peeps! Time to show support for backyard chickens! Since incorporating several areas in June of last year, they are trying to come up with one set of rules.

http://www.kirklandwa.gov/depart/Planning/Code_Updates/Miscellaneous_Code_Amendments_2012.htm

Upcoming Meetings

The Planning Commission study session and Houghton Community Council will hold a joint public hearing on June 14, 2012 in the Council Chambers at City Hall located at 123 5th Avenue.

The Planning Commission staff memo will be available on the Planning Commission and Houghton Community Council webpage on Friday June 8, 2012 after 5 p.m.

Project
The City of Kirkland is now studying various City wide miscellaneous amendments to Zoning and Municipal Codes. Based on an ongoing list of issues, code interpretations, requests from the public and from the Kirkland City Council and needs identified by staff, proposed amendments are periodically forwarded to the Kirkland Planning Commission and the Houghton Community Council for their consideration. The following list highlights some of the issues being considered:

• Minor Floor Area Ratio Exemptions (e.g. stairwells)
• Second story above-garage setbacks
• Backyard chickens

...etc. see webpage above for more.)

 

[BerrytangleFarm]

Seriously considering clearing out one of the coops and keeping one pure bred LF coop. I'd need a nice breed, though, maybe Faverolle? Bob the Coronation Sussex roo is so very nice, and that's what I want in a roo. While I realize chickens vary individually, some breeds have friendlier traits.

Suggestions??

--Deborah

 

[RonB]

Today I let my 3 girls free-range while I was out working in the yard. Had a great day - finished a garden bed, continued work on the coop/run set-up. Then, this evening, my neighbor's black lab got free and almost wiped out all 3 of my girls. It happened so fast, and right in front of me. The dog came into the yard from behind the shed and literally seemed to appear out of nowhere. It got one of the darker colored girls in her mouth - not sure who. The others looked like they were getting trampled. I screamed and went running, and the bird in the mouth flew out. My little Brahma actually flew and landed on top of a garbage can (didn't think she could fly very high... I guess she can when she needs to).

I completely understand the lab is a bird dog and was doing what she is bred to do. I know the neighbor is good about following the leash law - his dog got out, and he was trying to call it back. The dog came through a broken part of our fence that blew down in a windstorm. I know the neighbor had to know something happened with his dog and my birds. He was right on the other side of the fence - there's no way he didn't hear the commotion. My entire family was inside the house and heard the commotion and came running out. The part that really upset me was he never came over and asked if the birds were OK. He just got his dog, took it inside and said nothing. No "I'm sorry," no "Are they OK?" Not a single word came out of his mouth. Nothing. My other neighbor said I need to be the bigger person and just get over it. That's probably true. But, I'm still really irked.

The good news is my three birds seem to be OK. They were scared. Our Rhode Island Red even welcomed hugging for quite a while, and, normally she does not like to be held at all. We held all three until they seemed to relax a bit and then put them back into the brooder inside the garage

First thing ya need to do is FIX the fence! I would take some eggs over to your neighbor and nicely tell him what happened because things like that can happen. I've seen peoples dogs get lose and they have felt really bad about it. give him that chance to say " I'm sorry" you will be able to tell if he is or not. If you don't think he is , tell him you will call the police next time or that the law says you have the right to protect your animals on your property and you will shot it with your pellet gun !

 

[itsren]

First thing ya need to do is FIX the fence! I would take some eggs over to your neighbor and nicely tell him what happened because things like that can happen. I've seen peoples dogs get lose and they have felt really bad about it. give him that chance to say " I'm sorry" you will be able to tell if he is or not. If you don't think he is , tell him you will call the police next time or that the law says you have the right to protect your animals on your property and you will shot it with your pellet gun !First thing ya need to do is FIX the fence! I would take some eggs over to your neighbor and nicely tell him what happened because things like that can happen. I've seen peoples dogs get lose and they have felt really bad about it. give him that chance to say " I'm sorry" you will be able to tell if he is or not. If you don't think he is , tell him you will call the police next time or that the law says you have the right to protect your animals on your property and you will shot it with your pellet gun !

I sent them a nice e-mail this morning requesting that they have an arborist come out and look at a very large widow maker that over hangs the broken part of the fence, our shed and part of our backyard. I let them know that needed to be done right away so we can make repairs to the fence. I put it in writing what happened to my birds yesterday, as well. So, if the neighbor didn't know exactly what happened, even though he was standing on the other side of the fence and heard everything, they know now. My husband hasn't fixed the fence because of the widow maker that is hanging from their tree. The branch is truly a danger to my family and needs to be dealt with by a professional. If it comes down, it is wiping out the whole back corner of my yard, my entire shed included.

Hopefully they'll take care of the branch, so we can take care of the fence and this will be done and over.

I can't take eggs yet. We don't have any. My three pullets are only 8 weeks old. If I had some, I definitely would take some over.

 

[FirewifeJess]

I sent them a nice e-mail this morning requesting that they have an arborist come out and look at a very large widow maker that over hangs the broken part of the fence, our shed and part of our backyard. I let them know that needed to be done right away so we can make repairs to the fence. I put it in writing what happened to my birds yesterday, as well. So, if the neighbor didn't know exactly what happened, even though he was standing on the other side of the fence and heard everything, they know now. My husband hasn't fixed the fence because of the widow maker that is hanging from their tree. The branch is truly a danger to my family and needs to be dealt with by a professional. If it comes down, it is wiping out the whole back corner of my yard, my entire shed included.

Hopefully they'll take care of the branch, so we can take care of the fence and this will be done and over.

I can't take eggs yet. We don't have any. My three pullets are only 8 weeks old. If I had some, I definitely would take some over.

Ugh. I know all about those branches, our back tree still has some. The bulk of them have come down since the ice storm, but there's still a couple left. It's about an 80' tall tree and my DH climbed to the top of it to cut out the damaged branches, but hurt himself and had to come down before he could get the ones that fell and caught on lower branches. We really don't want to pay someone to do it either.

OK...my hardware cloth and the welded wire fencing just arrived. I almost peed myself from excitement! DAVE!!! Wanna come tomorrow instead???

I'm dying. DYING! Must.have.chicken.run.now!

Such a nice day, DS went out to let the girls out at 7:30am and the lazy bums were still sleeping on the roost! He opened the door and they slowly filtered out, but I thought it was hilarious they were still asleep and we were all up! The sun was shining quite brightly into the window of the coop too!