Weak and Wobbly Chicken, Open Mouth Breathing. Help, please!

GingerChickieChick

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Hello! I am a first time chicken owner. We got eight chicks back in October and built a stationary coop in our backyard. We live in a city with predators, so they stay in their enclosed run 24/7. One of my hens is unwell, and we separated her. I hope you all can help me see what else I can do for her.

1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.)

-She is an olive egger hen, a little over 3 months old. Her weight seems normal, from what I can tell?

2) What is the behavior?

-Here is what we have noticed.
She is wobbly, uncoordinated, and falls over. She's walking with her legs unsteady and lower to the ground. If you pick her up, her feet curl up, and they do not spread out when you put her back down, and she falls on her face.
Her right eye is squinty and her head is held tucked in and close to her body like she's unconfortable.
Her mouth stays open and she looks like she has trouble breathing. She is quietly wheezing. Monday it got worse with her stretching her neck and shaking it. Every exhale her beak opens and her head sticks out. (Possibly gapeworm?)
I'm new to chickens, so I don't know if this is abnormal. She has a honking cluck. She talks to me when I come up and say hello, but apart from the one honk, it sounds like it's hard for her to make any other noises.
She's a tad slower, but otherwise, she's been eating and drinking normally. She has good energy and curiosity. Not so much energy to peck at me or run away.

3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?

-I noticed these symptoms starting Saturday (1/4/25), thinking it wasn't a big deal, but then separated her Monday (1/6/25) when I saw the symptoms worsen.

4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?
-There is one other hen where we cannot tell if she is affected. She looks like she may be walking funny, but I can't tell if that's just her mannerisms. She can run from me and stand up straight. She has no other symptoms, so we're keeping an eye on her.

5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.

-She may have had a physical injury, but I cannot tell apart from what appears to be neurological weakness.

6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.

-My only guess could be old food scraps that we left out there, or infection from their coop floor. It's bare dirt that we spray down with the hose weekly. They have automatic feeders of food and water in buckets we keep stocked and clean.

7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.

-She has good appetite and is drinking regularly. They get hose water, and Pink Rose Organix layer feed, along with freeze dried larvae and some kitchen scraps. I didn't think to clean up old scraps from off the ground, but my husband usually clears it up with the weekly cleanings, and they usually clean it all up in a day or two themselves.

8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.

-Her poop is dark green and clumped together, almost like a tuft of lawn clippings. Definitely off, but not liquidy.

9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?

-We have her inside, in a covered dog kennel, in our spare room so she doesn't get cold. She has her normal organic feed with some "magic water" I made. It has 1/2 tsp ACV, 1 garlic clove, and 1/8 cup honey in a quart jar. I sprinkled some cayenne pepper in her feed to help with a possible parasite problem. I bought a few more supportive things like Strong Animals e-lixer and deworming herbs, but they won't come for a few days. This morning she got one scrambled egg with the shell, and some sprinkled organic unsalted sunflower seeds to help add vitamin b and e to her system. She's sitting down but interested in the food and talking. I'm glad to see she made it through the night and is still chatting with us.

10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?

-I don't have the money for a vet, and I want to treat her myself the best I can. If she gets worse, we'll put her down so she doesn't suffer, but it looks like she could pull through.

12) Describe the housing/bedding in use

-The coop is spacious with a deep litter method using wood shavings. The run is bare dirt that we spray down every week. They have a small bin with sand for dust bathing.

Thank you for taking the time to read this! I appreciate your help and attention.

First picture is of her before Christmas, and the other two are from Monday with her not feeling so well.
 

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Was she vaccinated for Mareks?

How long have you been using the garlic, and it is just a clove sitting in her water? How long are you planning to treat her with the garlic?

I've seen some wobblying with 2 or 3 of mine when they were still fairly young pullets/hens, they all snapped out of it though. This sounds a little more serious.
 
Was she vaccinated for Mareks?

How long have you been using the garlic, and it is just a clove sitting in her water? How long are you planning to treat her with the garlic?

I've seen some wobblying with 2 or 3 of mine when they were still fairly young pullets/hens, they all snapped out of it though. This sounds a little more serious.
No, not vaccinated. I minced the garlic and she's had it since yesterday evening. All my chickens had this magic water when they were little. We'll see if she improves.
 
She is an olive egger hen, a little over 3 months old

She is wobbly, uncoordinated, and falls over. She's walking with her legs unsteady and lower to the ground.

Her right eye is squinty and her head is held tucked in and close to her body like she's unconfortable.
Her mouth stays open and she looks like she has trouble breathing. She is quietly wheezing. Monday it got worse with her stretching her neck and shaking it. Every exhale her beak opens and her head sticks out.

There is one other hen where we cannot tell if she is affected. She looks like she may be walking funny, but I can't tell if that's just her mannerisms.

They get hose water, and Pink Rose Organix layer feed, along with freeze dried larvae and some kitchen scraps.

Pink Rose Organix layer feed,
Welcome To BYC

How long have you been feeding layer feed? Can you post the label of the feed?

I'd focus on all your pullets eating a Chick Starter that is 18-22% protein. If the feed is not a crumble and a loose type feed, then feed it wet or fermented. Often birds will pick out just the components they like best when feed loose type feed and become deficient in nutrition.

I do see her in the photos, can you get a couple of her by herself without fencing, one of her eyes and poop too? Thanks!

Is her crop emptying? Look inside her beak for any lesions or canker.
 
I know it's been a while, but I should update this. We suspect it was some sort of bird flu or Merek's disease. The second olive egger ended up also being sick, but much stronger than her sister. Both of them had to be culled.

@Wyorp Rock Thank you for the suggestions. The layer feed wasn't too different than the chick crumble, and they've been getting dried meal worms as treats. I don't think they were low in protein. I'm also not sure how to check a chicken's crop, but I'll learn so I can do so in the future :)

I gave VetRX and Poultry Cell every day, along with honey water and feed, and we saw no improvement for either. After a week, the first chicken had her legs paralyzed while continuously gaping. It was rough. Her companion was stronger but was sneezing, falling over, and not responding to medicine after another week. Considering we didn't know what the illness was, and didn't want that to spread to the flock, I think we made the best decision we could.

@AGeese @Wyorp Rock Thanks for reading and for being a resource for me to learn from. I appreciate the attention and replies.
 
I know it's been a while, but I should update this. We suspect it was some sort of bird flu or Merek's disease. The second olive egger ended up also being sick, but much stronger than her sister. Both of them had to be culled.

@Wyorp Rock Thank you for the suggestions. The layer feed wasn't too different than the chick crumble, and they've been getting dried meal worms as treats. I don't think they were low in protein. I'm also not sure how to check a chicken's crop, but I'll learn so I can do so in the future :)

I gave VetRX and Poultry Cell every day, along with honey water and feed, and we saw no improvement for either. After a week, the first chicken had her legs paralyzed while continuously gaping. It was rough. Her companion was stronger but was sneezing, falling over, and not responding to medicine after another week. Considering we didn't know what the illness was, and didn't want that to spread to the flock, I think we made the best decision we could.

@AGeese @Wyorp Rock Thanks for reading and for being a resource for me to learn from. I appreciate the attention and replies.
Sorry to hear about your birds. Defintely look through the learning articles section on BYC. There's good ones put up by members who have experience doing things like checking the crops. Also many threads you might search up premptively from members going through the same things, and bookmark them.

Good luck in the future.
 
a little over 3 months old

The layer feed wasn't too different than the chick crumble, and they've been getting dried meal worms as treats. I don't think they were low in protein. I'm also not sure how to check a chicken's crop, but I'll learn so I can do so in the future
I'm sorry for your loss.
If you ever lose another one and want to find out what the cause was, consider sending the body to your State Lab, this will give you the most answers.
Some layer feeds are not that much "different" than chick crumble when comparing protein %, but Layer Feed is for Actively Laying Pullets and Hens, it has more Calcium than chick crumble.
A 3 month old pullet is unlikely to be in lay and doesn't need all the extra Calcium that is in Layer Feed, this is why there are different formulas for different age groups/stages of life.






The crop is on the right side of the breast. When a bird had been eating/drinking you should be able to feel the crop (it's like a soft bulge/sac).

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