week old chick very weak

[DBMW]

my understanding was that Corid blocks Thiamine (the vitamin) which the Cocci bacteria or virus needs to survive. So effectively it causes a vitamin deficiency for a short period of time. The short period of time (5 days) won't cause permanent injury to the chicks but will rid the birds of the cocci. THis is why its important to not give the birds anything but the Corid and regular food (no extra vitamins/minerals/supplements/treats etc) while they are being treated or else it undermines the treatment.

After treatment, its important to then give the birds a good vitamin treatment (Nutri-drench) and some probiotics (I've read about Probios)

 

[Eggcessive]

my understanding was that Corid blocks Thiamine (the vitamin) which the Cocci bacteria or virus needs to survive. So effectively it causes a vitamin deficiency for a short period of time. The short period of time (5 days) won't cause permanent injury to the chicks but will rid the birds of the cocci. THis is why its important to not give the birds anything but the Corid and regular food (no extra vitamins/minerals/supplements/treats etc) while they are being treated or else it undermines the treatment.

After treatment, its important to then give the birds a good vitamin treatment (Nutri-drench) and some probiotics (I've read about Probios)

Since there is some misunderstanding about how it works, here is an quote from the Corid website that shows how it works, not by blocking thiamine from being absorbed by the animal, but mimmicking thiamine in the coccidia organism:

How CORID works
Structurally, CORID mimics thiamin (Vitamin B1) which is required by coccidia for normal growth and reproduction. When coccidia ingest CORID, they experience thiamin deficiency and starve from malnutrition. CORID has been experimentally administered at many times the recommended dosage and duration with no signs of toxicity

 

[Icedangel11]

I'd LIKE to treat with CORID but I literally can't afford it. I have 5$ to my name. Until the 3rd.

The food I got has Amprolium, which is what the main ingredient (slash only?) in CORID and the feed bag made sure to say 'Do NOT provide any other sources of Amprolium' So I don't think I'm supposed to double treat. I'm not entirely sure.

However! I just visited Chickie again and he took a drink by himself! It was a clumsy 'bang your head in' drink but still a drink. I fed him again and he had a lot more fight. He's wobbly again but he's moving around with the other chicks and the wobble goes away when I feed him. I think it's a weight thing. He's getting more fight in him and his poops this morning was a smidge pale but otherwise very normal. His fluffiness has gone down some, too and he's not trying to sleep constantly.

I think the feed is working. I've seen him try to peck some of his own food, too. I feel bad for the baby, though. Me having to open his mouth is leaving a little redness on the lower bits of his beak.

All the chicks are Easter eggers, save for the 1 silver laced wyandotte and they are all supposed to be Pullets. So I'm not sure whats going on. I just keep calling him he out of habit. XD

As another update; my older chickies are doing well in the big coop. They are faster than the hens and have taken to their hidey hole really well. Although I'm a bit sad my newest two ducks have walked out on me (literally. I have their flight feathers in my drawer here. They're trying to walk back home. ) I'm glad my little chicks are doing okay. Yesterday there was a HUGE thunderstorm and I was terrified they'd get spooked to death.

 

[Eggcessive]

Sulmet is cheaper than Corid--$8 versus $22, but gets only the 2 worst strains of cocci. If you know a cattle farmer nearby, I would bet they could loan you some Corid.

 

[Icedangel11]

I just moved here less than a month ago, unfortunately I don't know anyone.

I'm just going to keep doing what i'm doing and hope he can make it till the 1st. I might be able to ask my mom for some money. He IS improving so maybe the stuff in the feed will fend it off for a bit.

 

[ten chicks]

Amprolium is a analog of thiamine. It works by blocking thiamine uptake/prevents/inhibits the transport of thiamine to parasite,creating a hostile environment bringing parasite under control. It can cause thiamine deficiency in animals if doses of amprolium are high enough.

 

[Icedangel11]

Yup. Which is what's in Corid and the medicated chick feed I got. So I'm hoping a week the feed will fix him up.

Just fed him again. It's getting easier. Now when I hold his head he starts opening up his mouth. I fed him about 75% or the crop, so a nice meal. His being fed a mix of normal feed and water. Just enough to soften it up and make it easy to swallow. it's still crumbly.I want to make sure he gets a good amount of feed.

when his crops full he doesn't have balance issues, so that's a good thing.

 

[Icedangel11]

Three more feedings down, sticking to the wet medicated food.

No real change in condition besides the fact that he now opens his mouth automatically to get food.The next feeding will probably get some egg yolk in it. I'm hoping he'll eat most of the container I made today of the medicated mash.

 

[Icedangel11]

Has anybody heard of Dinovite? It's a supplement for dogs. I was wondering if my sick chick might benefit from it?

Ground flax seed, dried kelp, yeast culture, dried yeast, ground grain sorghum, fructooligosaccharide, zinc methionine complex, diatomaceous earth, montmorillonite clay, yucca schidigera extract, alfalfa nutrient concentrate, aspergillus oryzae fermentation product dehydrated, aspergillus niger fermentation product dehydrated, Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product dehydrated, lactobacillus Casei fermentation product dehydrated, Bifidobacterium thermophilum fermentation product dehydrated, enterococcus faecium fermentation product dehydrated.

I'm researching the ingredients. Apparently fructooligosaccharide has been given to chickens in hopes of decreasing salmonella levels.

 

[casportpony]

The key to keeping them alive is keeping them hydrated and I just read something that says a growing chicken should drink 18-20% of it's body weight/day. What that translates to (I'll use the 20% number to make the math easier) is 20ml of water per 100 grams of body weight per day. That's a lot of water. That info is here:

• http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/15.pdf

Let me know if I read that wrong or if there's an error in my math!

-Kathy