What are the options here?

Discussion in 'Coop & Run - Design, Construction, & Maintenance' started by llombardo, Dec 8, 2018.

  1. llombardo

    llombardo Crowing

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    i would like to cover this run with clear panels. I was thinking of making a wood structure on the inside of the run to support it with 2x4s. Are 2x4s strong enough to support a roof of this run. The run is about 25x25 or so

    Pitched? Sloped? How many inches does it need to be? If I go from the inside of run I can make more of a pitch I think, with highest point being the side with the gate. The run is about 5.5 tall now but the net gives I more height.

    I have no clue what I doing, any ideas will help.

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  2. Shorty22366

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    I have a 40x40 run and am thinking about covering half with a solid top using 2x4s and then covering other part with wire so nothing can fly in or out. I am sloping mine so won't hold water.
     
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  3. Gray Farms

    Gray Farms Crowing

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    2x4s will work. 12 inches of fall in ten feet of roof is a good average. Be sure you have plenty of ventilation if your going with clear panels. They let the heat in but not out, it gets very hot under there on hot sunny days. Some shade cloth on part/all of it would be a good idea.
     
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  4. aart

    aart Chicken Juggler!

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    For a roof that big you're going to need substantial support and framing.
    Not gonna be easy or cheap.
    Something like this:
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  5. Ghosty

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    I say start from scratch and build a new run around the existing run. You can pull the old one down when you are done. A roof that size will need a lot of support that would make excellent walls for a new run.
     
  6. llombardo

    llombardo Crowing

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    Well money is one thing lacking right now..lol

    Now partial is sounding better. I've been so sick since we lost power for a few days. Then the branch fell on the run. I probably need to get all the tree branches cut first.

    I wanted to build a coop and attach it to the run. I may have to go back to the drawing board.

    At least I can reuse the hardware cloth, so wood would be the main expense and I can possibly get lots of that for free.
     
  7. llombardo

    llombardo Crowing

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    So I would use 2x4s wherever I have a pole now, correct? Just build it the same way with wood?

    Will I need any pole support in the middle of the run? This wouldn't be to bad because I can add "roost bars from post to post.

    To bad I can't use the tree branches for some kind of support. I got big heavy ones. I'm pulling several to make the roosts in the run. I started cutting them and then I stopped because I could envision using them.

    This is going to be a huge project
     
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  8. Folly's place

    Folly's place Free Ranging

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    You need a stronger structure to support any possible snow load where you live. Plan for the worst snow and drifting possible! Any builder or carpenter should have advice, and there are plans available for your area. Overbuild if possible!
    If you get the framing done right, then add roofing as you can afford it. Check out the Habitat Restore, used lumber, whatever.
    When a 12" diameter 35' spruce fell on my coop last year, there were some holes punched in the roofing, but the framing was undamaged. It payed off to build as if I was going to live in it!
    Mary
     
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  9. Ghosty

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    Do a Google search on 'clear paneled coops' and 'clear pergola roof' and you get an idea of the framing involved. You would need 2 x 4s where you don't have support beams to attach your hardware cloth to.
     
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  10. llombardo

    llombardo Crowing

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    Of course I've been thinking about this non stop all day and will continue to think as I go.

    Is it possible to build a good enough support system without putting posts in the ground?

    Plans in my head are changing every hour on the hour in my head. I originally was going to put the prefab in another area for one of the boys, but since they are inside and in clise living quarters and getting along, I think I will divide a small area within the coop I want to build and the run, so they are together but not really. There seems to be no aggressiveness between them with a barrier between them.

    So basically for the run, I'm going to use treated 2x4s as the base and build the walls for the run much like the coop. For more support I will build several walls and connect them. I think I have the general area. This will take time. I think starting in January I will start buying supplies weekly until I'm ready to start the build. I'm quite sure I will change things as I go. Safety from predators and elements(especially snow) are number one concerns.

    I'm trying to find a way to incorporate the netting(it's strong). I may use the netting all the way around the top 1/4-1/2 of the run.
     
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