what are y'all saving from the wild to deal with coming crisis?

[BigBlueHen53]

I've been referring to the ability to cooperate is important to survival.

Sorry, I must have missed it. This thread is becoming very unweildy! But it's true, cooperation will be very important, and we certainly see it in times of natural disasters such as floods, tornadoes, forest fires, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes and hurricanes. People may arm themselves and say they will guard their food supply to the last bullet, but that doesn't seem to be what really happens. When our neighbirs or even strangers are hurting, we get in there and help. We fill sandbags, we bind wounds, we dig for bodies, we hold and comfort one another. Humans have a strong sense of community and I believe, in any "coming crisis," this is what we will continue to do. It's just who we are. And I thank God for it.

 

[clembone]

Having more worthwhile/marketable degrees. Things like gender studies are a waste of money.

Dear Kids and Parents,


Do not believe this poster who claims a liberal arts degree is a waste of money.

This is simply not true.

The idea that the degree has to match your career or you wasted your money is demonstrably false.

Many positions require a person with a college degree and have no requirement as to the field of study.

Moreover, the college degree itself is a step on the path to making more money over the entire career path, regardless of the major.



Look up the material for yourself. There are a ton of FACTS out there. Do not listen to a single person's story to determine important facts. A short, interesting story about a single person is an anecdote. Seek out the facts from large reliable pools of information.



An undergrad degree is very valuable in any major.



[this is supposed to be a calculator to figure the difference]

https://www.calcxml.com/calculators/...n?skn=#results

It may surprise you that, on average, an individual with a bachelor's degree earns approximately $66,872 per year, compared to the $37,076 average yearly salary of a worker with a high school diploma. Use this calculator to see the value of a college education.

Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics, 2018.

https://www.aacu.org/sites/default/f...EAP/nchems.pdf

see, e.g.
http://time.com/3964415/ceo-degree-liberal-arts/

see, also:

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics for 2016, people with these degrees experienced the following unemployment rates:

5.2 percent with a high school diploma
2.7 percent with a bachelor's degree
2.4 percent with a master's degree
1.6 percent with a doctorate or professional degree





A person with a 4 yr degree will make a lot more than a person without one, on average.
https://www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/20...ation-pays.htm

"A key reason why a degree remains a relatively valuable asset despite rising tuition is that the wages of those Americans without a degree have been falling, keeping the college wage premium near an alltime high, according to the report. Between 1970 and 2013, workers with a bachelor’s degree (excluding those who went on to a postgraduate degree) had annual earnings of about $64,500 after adjustment for inflation. Workers with an associate’s degree earned an adjusted $50,000 per year, and those with only a high school diploma earned $41,000. The authors calculate that, over four decades, workers with a bachelor’s degree earned on average 56 percent more and workers with an associate’s degree averaged 21 percent more than high school graduates.

Assuming that all workers retire at age 65 and that those who went to college spent 4 years in school to earn a bachelor’s degree or 2 years for an associate’s degree, workers with a bachelor’s degree earn well over $1 million more than high school graduates during their working lives. Workers with an associate’s degree earn about $325,000 more than high school graduates."
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2014/be...l-worth-it.htm



"The average student loan debt last year for graduates of four-year colleges who took out loans was $28,650, according to the latest version of an annual report from the Institute for College Access and Success (TICAS). The average amount was up $300, or 1 percent, from 2016."
https://www.insidehighered.com/quick...colleges-28650


"Experts predict that the future job market will require a significant increase in skilled workers. According to the Georgetown Center on Education and the Workforce, by 2020, 65 percent of all jobs in the American economy will require education beyond high school. However, the U.S. Census estimates that just 33 percent of American adults currently possess a bachelor’s degree or more."
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/here...-graduate.html


So go out there and get a degree in the field you love. It will pay off. you will learn how to learn, and you will be having a great time doing it.

 

[Stiletto]

They didn't do that for environmental reasons. The reason it was done in the first place is because it was less expensive to send ships returning from the US filled with garbage, and consequently make some money from recycling it, than it was to send ships back empty. For some reason the economics changed.

Where did you get that from?

I understood that it was part of China's campaign against “foreign garbage”:

“To protect China’s environmental interests and people’s health, we urgently adjust the imported solid wastes list, and forbid the import of solid wastes that are highly polluted.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-environment-idUSKBN1A31JI
It affected more countries than just the US, although the US was among the biggest sources of plastic waste.

 

[Mimi13]

I will also add that students who work really hard and do well while in high school can garnish quite a few outstanding scholarships, offsetting the cost of post secondary education.

 

[Willowspirit]

Wow. I have to pay $135! I didn't know we didn't all pay the same.

I take back what I wrote before, they are taking $135 out of my check for Medicare. So I guess we all pay the same.

 

[ValerieJ]

I take back what I wrote before, they are taking $135 out of my check for Medicare. So I guess we all pay the same.

Well, I feel better....but sorry to give you the bad news. Seems like after paying the "premiums" for 40 years, we shouldn't have to pay anything. I was surprised that we do. But, it's cheaper than any other insurance we can get and the wrap around insurance for prescriptions and the 20% medicare doesn't pay is free, so I'm not too unhappy.

 

[Willowspirit]

I will also add that students who work really hard and do well while in high school can garnish quite a few outstanding scholarships, offsetting the cost of post secondary education.

Really? My daughter got scholarships as an undergrad and grad student but they were not enormous even though she worked hard and got good grades. Most of them were a few hundred dollars each even though she earned everything available for Youth in Government (except for the awards for ex drug addicts). A friend of hers got more for the cosmetic effects of a broken collar bone from a car accident: $20,000. I don’t know any kids promised “a full ride” unless they were athletes.

As a middle income family with only one child she wasn’t eligible for any need-based scholarships at all.

 

[trumpeting_angel]

I take back what I wrote before, they are taking $135 out of my check for Medicare. So I guess we all pay the same.

At a very high income level, the fee for Part B goes up. I remember something over $300K MAGI.

 

[Willowspirit]

My grandson's life is not an "Anecdote"

What you told of your grandson’s life certainly is.

 

[Willowspirit]

Education?
My tenth grade English teacher (1965 near Hollwood, California) told us cocaine was not addictive.
This is not an anecdote

People believed that in the sixties. But with more experience of people using cocaine and particularly crack, scientists realized it was. You can’t know until you know.

an·ec·dote
/ˈanəkˌdōt/
noun

1. a short amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person.
   "told anecdotes about his job"
   synonyms: story, tale, narrative, sketch; More
   • an account regarded as unreliable or hearsay.
     "his wife's death has long been the subject of rumor and anecdote"
   • the depiction of a minor narrative incident in a painting.