what are y'all saving from the wild to deal with coming crisis?

[Maugwa]

Though I do not agree with some theories or why or how things are going down hill...I do agree they are.

What I do agree with is that getting SO far away from the old ways is a horrible tragedy. I've seen

Oh, I agree. I do believe the governments and news keep is wrapped up in agendas. I am not here to sway anyone my way or any other way.

Though I do not agree with some theories or why or how things are going down hill...I do agree they are.

What I do agree with is that getting SO far away from the old ways is a horrible tragedy. I've seen the posts on social media from people who don't even realize where their food came from or what it is. Our youth is being programmed and deprogrammed at the same time. THEY do not stand a chance if things go backward in a tragic event of any kind.

My comment about paying farmers is because it was brought up earlier in this thread. I should have quoted it I guess. It was meant to help someone become curious and research why we pay farmers not to farm. That's all.

I am patient and am truly enjoying this thread. Very good ideas for any time....not just crisis times.

I will also step back now and watch. I didn't come here to argue.
Sorry to anyone I may have offended.

I couldn't agree more. While I think that my background may be some slight advantage over most in the generations who came after mine, or those with different experiences, I'm more ashamed of what I didn't bother to learn from people who knew so much more about this stuff when I had the chance, than I am proud of what little I did learn from them.

My father grew up in the depression. When he was young, he farmed with a team. I learned how to break a saddle horse, but wouldn't even know where to begin with a team. My mother's grandma was a Lakota woman who married a man who worked for the Cheyenne/Deadwood stage lines. I remember her and visiting her cabin well. Her water came from a hand pump in the yard, She had an outhouse, and her bathtub hung in the kitchen. Her lights ran on glass batteries. She died at 97 years old in 1969, I was 7.

When I was a kid, we had a lot of chickens. I never learned much about them, they were all white, I gathered eggs, and sometimes, unhappily, had to shovel poop. I came to this forum 50 some years later for a refresher coarse. Most of the time I learn new things, but, sometimes it brings back a memory of something I once knew and forgot. Same could be said for gardening, canning, cooking, and all that surviving stuff. I wish I would have been paying more attention in my youth. People who lived before us had so much knowledge of how to make it without the things we take for granted now, it blows my mind.

 

[perchie.girl]

Then there are people like me Grew up with science and technology but yet listening to my dad talk about His dad and Sharecropping. He escaped the farm and eventually became a high tech designer for his day. I became a mechanical designer... but always craved a more simple life I read and read...

No I cant grow crops but I have read about it.... Tinkered with house plants.... All the while my In-touch with the world of animals was through Horses and dogs. have had horses for more than fifty years now Dogs sixty four... Mom raised poodles.

In the late sixties, early seventies The crap was scared out of me over war.... they showed us documentaries.... in history.... I was horrified... and completely convinced that we were going to go back to the stone age if we went through it. So I started reading.

Found the fox fire books.... And read and understood many of the things they were talking about.... and kept reading when ever I found an article that was appropriate... Omni, National Geographic, Dow Corning etc., Even some of my dads technical papers... and learned some of the things he knew from his work in Area 51.

Oh my and when I went to the internet my research exploded... Verify Read Verify Read more... Toss out the urban legend stuff... Read more.

By now I had a Draft horse and a few goats and Chickens.... Learning from BYC... as well as my dad.... I resurrected what I learned out of necessity... Cooking. Mom was one who could burn the same pot of beans twice.... NOT kidding

I gathered Mustard greens out on the trail packing my jacket full and tying it on the back of my horse.... Brought them home cleaned and sauteed them with Salt pork... One jacket full was enough for all of us to eat for dinner.... and they were yummy.
I was fourteen. I think I made pork chops as well for the main protein.

deb

 

[Curnow]

do not leave, I need your opinions to be represented in the discussion that is making an effort to prevent the crisis

Thank you. I really appreciate it. This is an awesome thread and one that can make people think about things they usually take for granted.

Education...they need to bring more into pubic education that shows children (starting young) more of the "Old Ways". Field trips to farm operations, farmers markets, living history and the like. Promote skills we are quickly losing sight of like gardening, canning, the food chain, holistic medicine. Community events to promote such instead of Poke Mon Go (sp?) and Wine Walks would help. Stop teaching to be part of a propaganda machine and how to protest, and start teaching how to lessen YOUR OWN carbon footprint. If we can inspire just one child in a handful...that is a plus.

Example from my own life... My grandchildren ages 4-10 are already attached to cell phones and tablets and play games and do homework. They also are taught to hunt, fish, garden, and prepare meals from their harvest. They have seen first hand chickens as pets lay eggs, hatching eggs, and roosters being butchered for a meal. They have seen hanging deer and been around for the processing. They were NOT traumatized...they were educated. My adult children are continuing that trend.

Research...Everyone needs to research and re-research BOTH sides of an argument/agenda.

Example from my own life.... I am not convinced of "climate change". My sister, however is. I can find a multitude of videos on youtube that support my stance. She can find numerous to support her stance. WATCH THEM BOTH! Research both sides of an issue and find your own truth.

While I abhor some technology, I do also embrace it. I come here...right? Technology used for learning and sharing experience.

Education and living it to even a small extent is the key I believe.

Example from my own life... I was raised in cities across the US. My father was from a poor family in rural Iowa. My mother from a poor family in Missoula, Montana. My dad retired as a computer specialist for the US Forest Service which is of the Department of Agriculture. Just because we were raised in cities and lived in a fairly well off family we were educated from our parents on how to grow gardens and hunt and fish. We spent loads of time in the mountains and deserts learning what our resources were. Every home we lived in had a formal dining room...but mom put in a wood stove to cook on and heat the house. We cut and split our own wood for that stove too. We cooked in cast iron and ate turnip a dandelion greens. We canned and preserved. We learned the value of solar energy and my genius dad taught us to build and cook with solar ovens. This is just the tip of the iceberg!!

Example from my own life... Culture and Region! No matter where we lived we were exposed to cultures different from our own (mostly Native American and Hispanic). Draw from them! Learn from them! Adapt their methods and ways to fit your own life. Don't get stuck in a rut! If Mesquite is in your area, learn the benefits of mesquite. If Burdock is in your area then educate yourself about that. If Canadian Hemlock is in your area, start there! A jack rabbit, a cotton tail, and a domestic rabbit raised in a cage will all eat! Get it? Got it. A squirrel is a rodent and is awesome eating! Beef, pork, chicken are not all that can be on a menu! Bear is greasy as it raccoon by the way...but so is duck and people pay good money for it!!

One must open their minds and be creative sometimes. We need to pass on the knowledge of our ancestors! Hopefully there won't be a tragedy in which we have to rely solely upon our own resources!

And just for the record...I AM a conspiracy theorist. I work for a government agency and my husband is management in Ag business and has worked his way from the bottom up. WE have a small farm (micro mini) by most standards...79 acres of hay and timber. I am a BIG believer in HAARP controlling the world markets.

History and education is key. Time and energy will be expended. But one person at a time we can make an impact!! Believe it! Live it!!

 

[Curnow]

I couldn't agree more. While I think that my background may be some slight advantage over most in the generations who came after mine, or those with different experiences, I'm more ashamed of what I didn't bother to learn from people who knew so much more about this stuff when I had the chance, than I am proud of what little I did learn from them.

My father grew up in the depression. When he was young, he farmed with a team. I learned how to break a saddle horse, but wouldn't even know where to begin with a team. My mother's grandma was a Lakota woman who married a man who worked for the Cheyenne/Deadwood stage lines. I remember her and visiting her cabin well. Her water came from a hand pump in the yard, She had an outhouse, and her bathtub hung in the kitchen. Her lights ran on glass batteries. She died at 97 years old in 1969, I was 7.

When I was a kid, we had a lot of chickens. I never learned much about them, they were all white, I gathered eggs, and sometimes, unhappily, had to shovel poop. I came to this forum 50 some years later for a refresher coarse. Most of the time I learn new things, but, sometimes it brings back a memory of something I once knew and forgot. Same could be said for gardening, canning, cooking, and all that surviving stuff. I wish I would have been paying more attention in my youth. People who lived before us had so much knowledge of how to make it without the things we take for granted now, it blows my mind.

So true. Hopefully this forum will inspire some to learn and pass on. I got a giggle from your post. I have a recipe from my husband's grandmother that she got from her grandmother who was Indian (Native American) for hot mustard! It is guarded in my jewelry box!!

 

[perchie.girl]

History and education is key. Time and energy will be expended. But one person at a time we can make an impact!! Believe it! Live it!!

Awesome quote....

deb

 

[Curnow]

Then there are people like me Grew up with science and technology but yet listening to my dad talk about His dad and Sharecropping. He escaped the farm and eventually became a high tech designer for his day. I became a mechanical designer... but always craved a more simple life I read and read...

No I cant grow crops but I have read about it.... Tinkered with house plants.... All the while my In-touch with the world of animals was through Horses and dogs. have had horses for more than fifty years now Dogs sixty four... Mom raised poodles.

In the late sixties, early seventies The crap was scared out of me over war.... they showed us documentaries.... in history.... I was horrified... and completely convinced that we were going to go back to the stone age if we went through it. So I started reading.

Found the fox fire books.... And read and understood many of the things they were talking about.... and kept reading when ever I found an article that was appropriate... Omni, National Geographic, Dow Corning etc., Even some of my dads technical papers... and learned some of the things he knew from his work in Area 51.

Oh my and when I went to the internet my research exploded... Verify Read Verify Read more... Toss out the urban legend stuff... Read more.

By now I had a Draft horse and a few goats and Chickens.... Learning from BYC... as well as my dad.... I resurrected what I learned out of necessity... Cooking. Mom was one who could burn the same pot of beans twice.... NOT kidding

I gathered Mustard greens out on the trail packing my jacket full and tying it on the back of my horse.... Brought them home cleaned and sauteed them with Salt pork... One jacket full was enough for all of us to eat for dinner.... and they were yummy.
I was fourteen. I think I made pork chops as well for the main protein.

deb

It can be done! Loved your post! Prime example right there!!

 

[Maugwa]

I've been trying to keep up with technology and new ideas too. I designed a cabin that I had hoped to begin this Summer, but it looks like it'll be put off till next year now. One of these would reduce my own carbon footprint considerably - not that I'm so concerned that the sky is falling, but I would love to cut my ties to the grid just the same, especially the tie in which they send me a bill. Besides, I still live in a state where power, gas, sewer, and water lines only reach a small portion of the awesome home sites that are out there, and raw land without these amenities is still relatively affordable. As a mason, my idea for a cabin is different than most.

 

[ladyearth]

wow did I. ope a can of worms.. Ha LOL
I mention this to youngsters say working at Wallyworld. Some listen. One young HS graduate said "Ikk h just work at Walmart" when I asked what his family and he would do in event of an EMP . Since this area everyday land goes up for auction.... His family he said recently sold their dairy farm.\ Southern States closed this location here . Even though there are Amish on the streets with horse and Bury. But I have only met few real Amish that dont ride in caes etc or have No debit cards\
Im constantly puling weeds here esp blackberry wild, and that dang creeping Charlie , I give the clover and dandelion, chickweed etc to hubby to take to the abused chicken (at other home area) I m sad for
when got my 3 gals back weeks ago they knew exactly where to go up the steps and into their coop. I havent opened the older coop yet as I had my transplant starts sunning and mess is still there with too many plant starts no pots for etc )in them still. not let them out to the rest of property they staND at their giaNT 1/2 acre fence and whine. But too bad as I have my garden in bins now with mulch etc and many pots. LOL
Richard alan Miller I listen to among others and Vincent Fenilli and RBN for the truth. on my constant on internet radio .... But I take one day at a time at my age. prepare for worstbut hope for the best

 

[Curnow]

Uses for wood ash. Great read for sure!
I got interested in it because we have a wood stove and thought there must be something besides gardening I can use this for....

https://practicalselfreliance.com/wood-ash-uses/

I fully intend to try it as leavening this year. I read on a blog how to cook with it and she showed her comparison with biscuits.

Think outside the box folks. Just because you don't heat with wood like I do, doesn't mean you don't have fallen tree limbs in your yard or trimmings from pruning! Use that backyard fire pit as a resource!

Bone Broth also is a mostly wasted resource. Even a Wally World rotisserie chicken can produce a decent bone broth!

You don't have to live in the country like I do to use what nature gives us!

 

[perchie.girl]

I've been trying to keep up with technology and new ideas too. I designed a cabin that I had hoped to begin this Summer, but it looks like it'll be put off till next year now. One of these would reduce my own carbon footprint considerably - not that I'm so concerned that the sky is falling, but I would love to cut my ties to the grid just the same, especially the tie in which they send me a bill. Besides, I still live in a state where power, gas, sewer, and water lines only reach a small portion of the awesome home sites that are out there, and raw land without these amenities is still relatively affordable. As a mason, my idea for a cabin is different than most.

Oh my I love Earth ships.... they are perfect for my neck of the woods... My house may be convertible to some extent at least for the air exchange system....

deb