What are YOUR experiences on how Dogs have changed??

[Jamie_Dog_Trainer]

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Eh ok...but generally they are animated, or assertive with how they show....but anyway I do love the responses I am getting which is why I asked the question

I guess the best way I can descirbe how they move in the ring is cool and laid-back confidance. Not shy acting or plodding along by any means, but they don't really care about putting on a good show and they often won't bait for food so they don't stack well. They are normally somewhat wary of strangers and that's acceptable. They are moved around the ring on a loose lead, with them more at your side than prancing in front like many breed do. They move like a working dog who is out of his element, which they are. And since the judges know this is how this dog is, it's all acceptable. Now a dog who is more animated will probably do better in the judging than one who is laid back, all other things being equal, just because it puts on a better show.

So sorry Carolinagirl58 -- when I replied to this it was really late for me and I was tired...when I was saying "they" in my reply I meant dogs in general not specifically talking about Anatolians. I just wanted to clarify. Thanks for the added information!

 

[punk-a-doodle]

And, a dog that shows a hint of aggression toward humans or for that matter other dogs is DQ'ed so fast it's not funny

I am not very familiar with the show world, so I may be wrong on this, but I have heard that in some breeds, aggression or suspicion is allowed, including lunging at the judge for some breeds. This is one breed I have heard this about:
http://worldlydogs.com/brazilian_mastiff.php

However, even dogs that would be disqualified can still unfortunately have sporadic aggression due to nuerological disorders, and not have it show in the ring either if a trigger is not present, or it the episodes are spaced out enough in the dog that the chance of witnessing it is slim.

 

[carolinagirl58]

No breed is permitted to lunge at a judge or anyone else in the ring. This is from the AKC rules book for judges:

R] Poorly Trained, Shy and Vicious Dogs
Excuse any dog that will not stand for examination;
mark the judge’s book “Excused, unable to examine;”
and initial the notation.
Excuse any dog that in your opinion:
• Menaces
• Threatens
• Exhibits any sign that it may not be safely
approached or examined in the normal manner.
Signs may include growling, showing or snapping its
teeth, and rolling its eyes. Any dog that displays such
demeanor is a threat to you and every judge that follows
you.
[R] When you excuse the dog, mark your judge’s
book “Excused, menacing” or “Excused, threatening”
and initial it. A dog so excused shall not be counted as
having competed. A dog recorded as “Excused for
threatening or menacing” by judges on three occasions
will be administratively disqualified by the American
Kennel Club (Rules, Chapter 11, Section 8A).
[R] Disqualify any dog that, in your opinion, attacks
any person in the ring (Rules, Chapter 11, Section 8A).
An attack is defined as a bite or an attempt to bite anyone,
including its own handler, without valid extenuating
circumstances.

 

[Chickhick]

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I am not very familiar with the show world, so I may be wrong on this, but I have heard that in some breeds, aggression or suspicion is allowed, including lunging at the judge for some breeds. This is one breed I have heard this about:
http://worldlydogs.com/brazilian_mastiff.php

However, even dogs that would be disqualified can still unfortunately have sporadic aggression due to nuerological disorders, and not have it show in the ring either if a trigger is not present, or it the episodes are spaced out enough in the dog that the chance of witnessing it is slim.

LOL! THe official position on this, as written in the rules pertaining to judging in the AKC conformations shows, is as follows:


"R. Poorly Trained, Shy and Vicious Dogs
Excuse any dog that will not stand for examination; mark the judge’s book “Excused, unable to
examine;” and initial the notation.
Excuse any dog that in your opinion:
• Menaces
• Threatens
• Exhibits any sign that it may not be safely approached or examined in the normal manner.
Signs may include growling, showing or snapping its teeth, and rolling its eyes. Any dog that displays
such demeanor is a threat to you and every judge that follows you. "


Did you notice that --- just a dog rolling it's eyes will get a dog excused from the ring! With that many dogs around there are the occaisional issues, but way less than I see in normal day to day life around non-show dogs at the petstore, park etc. The vast majority of dogshows have no aggression displayed at all.

No, show dogs are not allowed to "lunge at the judge."

 

[carolinagirl58]

I thought the rolling of eyes was funny. I am not sure I have ever seen a dog "roll his eyes". My husband, yes....but not my dogs!

 

[Dar]

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what do you base this comment on?... not getting confrontational... but I have 3 purse dogs.. by day they are lazing on the couch.. by mid afternoon that are playing catch and running like mad through my 2+ acres chasing chickens and digging holes rolling in chicken poop and barking at flies. when we go out they have a purse carrier and they know its time to go into the car. they know they have assigned seats and will wait patiently until they are buckled in.

I have also had a 120LB malamute.. she acted the exact way.. with the exception of chasing chickens.. she chased the rabbits... and she didnt bark at files... she barked @ the toads. She had an assigned spot in the van and she waited till we buckled her into her car seat

its not the dogs fault that some owners want to be the next Paris Hilton... but not all live that lifestyle.

I have 3 min pins 5lbs, 6lbs, and 12lbs
and a 15lb toy fox terrier

Oh and to address the question why would anyone want a purse dog?.. so I am not spending hours a week on sweeping the balls of fur flying through my house. So my choice of vehicle does NOT depend on weather we can fit the dog(s) AND kids in all at once... those are just a few reasons that are off the top of my head.

 

[verity]

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oh my gosh -- this is too funny -- just picturing teen-age type dogs rolling their eyes at the judge --

have to say, tho, that I don't believe there is a Japanese Chin anywhere on earth who hasn't rolled his/her eyes --
they have different kinds of 'eye-rolling,' too -- the 'Oh, please, do we have to be brushed out again?' and 'I see that you are eating pizza even though you are turned away from me' -- it goes on and on ---

 

[Jamie_Dog_Trainer]

I don't "do" conformation myself but have been to plenty of shows, and seen shows on TV for years. I've seen a lot of inappropriate behavior from dogs: aggression, panic, shyness. I have never witnessed a dog being excused from the ring, and what a disappiontment that is. I know there are rules for dog behavior in the ring but I don't see hear of dogs being dismissed as often as they should be. The one time I heard of a dog being dismissed from the ring was a dog my Grandmother bred, a young male at his first show. When it was time for the judge to make sure he was all male (lol) he yelped and jumped around. The handler/owner had never prepared the dog for this intrusion and the dog wasn't at all prepared. I applaud the judge for his excusal from the ring for that.

All those rules are great on paper but unless they are followed accross the board we have issues.

 

[dainerra]

lol Jaime, that sounds like Singe's first day of conformation class! He jumped about 5 feet in the air; his expression was like "I don't even KNOW you!!"
Now he just takes it all in stride

 

[yinepu]

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oh my gosh -- this is too funny -- just picturing teen-age type dogs rolling their eyes at the judge --

have to say, tho, that I don't believe there is a Japanese Chin anywhere on earth who hasn't rolled his/her eyes --
they have different kinds of 'eye-rolling,' too -- the 'Oh, please, do we have to be brushed out again?' and 'I see that you are eating pizza even though you are turned away from me' -- it goes on and on ---

I've had american eskimos roll their eyes at me.. "oh please.. can you believe THIS human wanting me to do WHAT!"... my favorite would actually turn her back to you if you had hurt her feelings.. would stick her nose up in the air and if you tried to get her to look at you she would turn her shoulder to you until you apologized.. She butted heads with my husband on several occasions.. and would not give him the time of day until he would tell her he was sorry and ask for her forgiveness..

and I don't care what anyone says about attributing human emotions on dogs.. she was much smarter than my nephew and she knew it too